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Best FM 2014 Tactics: Darren’s Dynamic 4-2-3-1 ver 14.3

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Updated 24/03/14 to suit patch 14.3 – This post has not been changed, but the changelist for the updated tactic can be found near the bottom of this post, just before the download link. Minor tweaks and enhancements have been made so this will be just as effective with the new patch.

Hey guys and welcome back to our series of best FM 2014 tactics. Its been a while since I could update you with something new, mainly due to this years tactics and match engine been so tough to master. However, after many hours of testing I think we’ve found one of my best FM 2014 tactics yet, at least I hope so. :)

For some time now you’ve been asking us to create a 4-2-3-1 tactic for Football Manager 2014. Well now we have, the holy grail of FM 2014 formations has been unlocked. I call it Darren’s dynamic 4-2-3-1, Darren because of my name, dynamic because its fast paced and well you get the rest. :) Enough of the jokes, lets jump into it as there’s a lot to explain.

Let me begin by saying this is tested for patch 14.2.2 and I can’t say if it will work beyond that patch. Also, if you are struggling with this tactic and haven’t read the full post before using, then don’t complain, its your own fault. Below should explain all you need to know in order to use this properly.

This tactic is suitable for almost any team in the top flight or second tier of almost any country. However, bare in mind you must have the correct personnel for all the best FM 2014 tactics to work, if you don’t this tactic will be an epic fail. I tested it with Swansea to great effect and a friend did so with Chelsea, West Brom and Atletico Madrid. That should give you an idea of the sorts of teams that are primed and ready to play. I recently tried it in Italy, not as effective there due to its fluidity but with patience and good signings it should work.

Best FM 2014 Tactics: 4-2-3-1 formation

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, formation

Important! The philosophy is very fluid and must stay that way, the strategy should vary on who you are. As a guideline, when playing with Swansea I used counter for every single match bar the incredibly easy ones. My friend Dan used control strategy for every single match when playing with Chelsea, bar the very difficult away games to the likes of Man Utd and City etc. Basically if you are not a top top side then stick with the counter strategy, but you’ll have to gauge yourself where your strategy should lye.

I actually created this tactic while watching Chelsea beat Manchester United. All I did was examine every role Jose played and how they moved, hassled and all their general play, then tried to replicate the roles and instructions in FM. So if you are considering who to sign, just consider Chelsea’s starting XI and use them as inspiration for the types of players you will need. Again, this will work with underdogs, but you do need to make sure the squad is suitable and its worth noting that speed is quite important but we’ll cover that later.

Best FM 2014 Tactics: 4-2-3-1 Team Instructions

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, instructions

The instructions are designed again to try and emulate Chelsea’s game. I noted in the United victory that they seemed very expressive, closed the opposition down fast and most of the play was at a high tempo (note AMC is instructed to hold up ball as to try and be more calculated with his passing options.) Due to their superior wingers they exploited Hazard and co on the flanks and the full backs liked to overlap as did the box to box MC.

I also noted that most of the passing was short as they tried to work an angle into the box and they liked to run at the opposition with the ball as well as drill their crosses in. The only instruction that doesn’t resemble their general style is the pass into space, but that is just to try and combat the difficult match engine.

This tactic does feature a number of player instructions, of which I won’t go into detail. But none effect the roles or general duties you’d expect the players to fulfill…they just enhance what the players are already asked to do like the inside forwards are told to dribble more for instance.

Best FM 2014 Tactics: 4-2-3-1 Roles

GK: goalkeeper – defend – Nothing special required, sometimes your keeper may be left a little stranded with long balls over the top, so one on ones and running out may be a bonus but not a necessity.

DR/DL: wing back – support – Very important players, they give the inside forwards support and overlap going forward. Speed is very important, stamina too and the obvious defensive attributes. But the better these guys are at crossing and dribbling the more chances you will create.

DC: ball playing defender – defend – You should look for all the usual defensive attributes, but also passing, composure and acceleration are very important. If the pace and acceleration are below 12 for top flight teams this guy may cause problems. The faster the better.

DC: central defender – defend – Same as above, he will be vulnerable to balls over the top so needs speed to avoid being caught out. Don’t worry about the passing for this guy though as he isn’t expected to play out of defence. Look more for someone good in the air with jumping and heading.

MC: ball winning midfielder – defend – This guy will need to hunt down possession and then lay it off to a team mate. Good physicals are a bonus, work rate and tackling are very important alongside the usual attributes for this role.

MC: box to box midfielder – support – We want someone with acceleration, dribbling and great work rate for this role. He will run up and down the pitch, good shooting ability will be a bonus too.

AMR/AML: inside forward – attack – Very important players, they will get the goals when your forward can’t. We must have flair, plenty of pace and acceleration and the better they are in front of goal the more they’ll score. Most importantly we need good dribblers. These two will transform you from average to great if picked correctly.

AMC: attacking midfielder – support – The AMC is your link, he should connect everything together so great technical ability is a must. Also the better his mentals in general the better he’ll perform, teamwork and work rate could be a real bonus but look for creativity and try to avoid slow players.

ST: deep lying forward – support – This guy needs to be a bit of an all rounder, the best example for this role would be Bony. But don’t pick someone slow as they will not work. Try for a minimum of 12 in pace and acceleration, again more is better.

General player tips: I can’t stress how important speed is in this tactic, namely out wide and at centre back, slow defenders will be caught out due to the fluidity and number of players in attacking positions.

Best FM 2014 Tactics: 4-2-3-1 In Action

With the right players as I have laid out above, this tactic should play fairly solid at the back and very dangerous upfront. When the opposition press against you as opposed to counter, your back four should stay compact while the two MC’s, AMC and all other attacking players press and hassle, making it difficult for the opposition to break through.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, defensive stability

When against lesser opposition who would rather sit back and play on the counter, the team will press much higher up as shown below. The pressure is great, but this is why you need fast wing backs and centre backs as they can be drawn out of position and that is when the long ball over the top will hurt you most and lead to annoying losses to lesser sides.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, pressing game

The build up play can see every one of your players involved. The screenshot below is from a counter attack against Man City that lead to a penalty. The ball winning midfielder picks up possession and finds the marauding wing back who plays a quick threaded pass to the left sided inside forward, Dyer speeds away and is brought down. As you can see there are a lot of attacking options.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, attacking build up

The AMC is set to hold up play and pass more direct, this is to further enhance his playmaking options, while the box to box midfielder tends to get up alongside him offering a flat passing option, this helps open play and further passing options. Meanwhile the ST, AMR and AML pry around the opposition defence in search of an opening.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, attacking movement in final third

Below are some highlights from my Swansea save which show how clinical this can be with the right players. Please watch in 1080HD for the best viewing.

Results with Swansea

Europa League – We enjoyed a good run in Europe, but were unfortunate to lose against French side Marseille in the semi-final. We had more chances but they took the few they created over both legs.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, swansea europa league results

Premier League – While we suffered early exits in the domestic cups we did incredibly well in the league. Missing out on the title thanks to a last minute Baines fee-kick in the last game of the season!

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, swansea Premier League table

Squad ratings – Bony was key with 25 goals, so were the wingers. Hernandez and Dyer chipped in with 22 goals between them and 18 assists. You’ll notice the defence had high ratings, they were superb while Michu wasn’t always on form but he always linked up play well and scored 11 goals to boot.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, swansea squad

Dan’s results with Chelsea

League Cup – While I tested with Swansea, my friend Dan Davidson tested with Chelsea to great success. He won the League Cup beating United, Liverpool and City on the way.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, chelsea League Cup results

FA Cup

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, chelsea FA Cup results

Premier League – Dan won the Premier League, unfortunately he deleted the save before sending me the screenshot of the table but below are all the results.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, Chelsea Premier League results

Champions League – The quadruple was wrapped up with a win against Juventus in the final of Europe’s elite competition.

Chelsea 4-2-3-1 tactic, Chelsea champions league results

Dan also played with West Brom and finished 7th in the Premier League and won the League Cup, showing this can work with the underdog providing you have the right type of players.

Important notes

  • I prepared this tactic through pre-season. I had training set to team cohesion and high intensity throughout pre-season and the match prep as tactics only. Through the season I changed to average intensity and balanced training. The match prep should change based on your next opponent and what may have been a problem in the last match.
  • Give this tactic time, it will not start working perfectly straight away. I am currently testing with Napoli and only after about 8 games do the team start looking like they can make the tactic work. There’s lots of fluidity and freedom, which can take longer to adapt to. Just see Dan’s first few results for evidence of this.
  • You must sign suitable players for this tactic, or it will not work. Remember the faster your side the better they’ll play.
  • When two goals up against tough opposition or desperately trying to hang onto a lead at the end of a match, it may be best to switch to my 4-5-1. This tactic will be more stable defensively and help close out the match, you can download it from here.
  • For opposition instructions just ask your assistant manager to set them every match, he tends to know best. Your AM won’t always be right, but unless you know what to look for in his errors, leave the instructions to him. Without these instructions been done properly the tactic won’t work.
  • There are no specific pitch dimensions I’d recommend.
  • This tactic has been tested in patch 14.2.2 and I can’t guarantee it working in later patches.

14.3 Tactic Changelist

As mentioned at the top of this post, I have adjusted and tweaked this tactic to suit the most recent patch, 14.3. Below are all the changes made to suit the new patch, while almost all the information above still applies in using this tactic, just note that the control strategy is best to use in general.

  • Strategy – always use control
  • Team instructions – Added instruction ‘much deeper defensive line’.
  • DCL changed from ball playing defender to central defender.
  • MCR changed from box to box midfielder role to central midfielder with support duty.
  • MCL changed from ball winning midfielder role to central midfielder with defend duty.
  • AMC changed from attacking midfielder to advanced playmaker with support duty.

The download below is for the new revised tactic.

Best FM 2014 Tactics: 4-2-3-1 Download for patch 14.3 and beyond

If you like what you see, then just click the download image below and download the file from mediafire. Then follow the instructions.

FM 2014 Download

  1. Once download is complete, move the file to the following folder documents>sports interactive>football manager 2014>tactics
  2. Now load the game as normal and enter the tactics screen.
  3. Click the button to add a tactic and look in ‘archived tactics’, then select ‘Darren’s Dynamic 4-2-3-1 v2’.

Well that is my best FM 2014 tactic to date. Thanks for reading and please do share this post on Facebook and Twitter…sharing our site will help us grow and I’d really appreciate it. For those trying this out I hope it works as well for you as it did for me and Dan.

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Brucey
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Brucey

Looks really good on my game so far! Defensively brilliant (which is all important this year) and pretty good offensively. The only thing I could suggest would be changing the AMC from an AM-S to an enchange, which I have found works brilliantly with a BBM.

Ainvar
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Ainvar

Will try as soon as I can! And I was happy to see Brucey commented the same thing I wanted to post, that maybe an Enganche for the AMC position would be perfect, as Darren says the AMC is told to hold the ball and in general be a more stable man up there, linking the marauding WB-IF and striker!

kevin62
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Hey Darren
Great write up as always and of course an impressive tactic as well. Probably not suitable for my Canadian SC side though I may give it a go based on the results so far :)

Max
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Max

I’ve been using your 4-5-1 with Spurs, I’ve finished 3rd, 4th and 1st and won the league cup in my third season. I’m coming to the end of the 4th season where I’m currently second in the league.

I am going to use this tactic in the 5th season I play. I will probably by another striker for this formation but I have Lamela, Eriksen and Di Maria who should suit the attacking midfield positions.

You mention balls over the top being a problem for the defence. Would it be worth changing thge GK to a sweeped keeper especially as I have Lloris who is perfect for this?

Gaurav Chaddah
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Woooooooo finally someone has cracked the formation of nightmares, finally we’ll be able to use the most common real life formation in FM, thanks a lot Darren, only you could do it ;)

Poobington
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Poobington

Hey are we going to see a revival of the tactics review from last year? It was great last year

jackson
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jackson

Great guide Darren. Dan’s results with Chelsea looks fantastic. Michu performed quite poorly though, so do you think changing him to have a role of AM-Attack or even Trequarista (which goes on attack automatically) could make him perform better?

Dalep86
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Dalep86

have you tried using this tactic with 2 wingers instead of inside forwards?

Jonny
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Jonny

This tactic is amazing with Southampton at moment!!

Matt (Great Matsby)
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Matt (Great Matsby)

Hi Darren. Just to reiterate Jonny’s point above, I’m riding high with Saints using your tactic. The subtle mix of counter attack mentality but with team and player instructions more widely used with attacking tactics seems to balance things just right. I have Osvaldo and Jay Rodriquez pulling off some incredible solo efforts from IF and Ramirez is a player reborn in the AM role. Many congratulations mate, truly your best tactic to date.

As you have mentioned, the only weakness appears to be conceeding regularly from long balls from the back or jinked through balls from opposition AM’s/DLF’s. I’m getting hit time and time again by this and results are inconsitent (beat Man Utd 2-1at Old Trafford, then welcomed Spurs to St Mary’s, who pummelled me 5-0…Defoe hat-trick), so have been thinking of a way of countering. Possibilities include dropping the BWM into a DM position and withdrawing the AM into CML as an attacking AP (making a 4-1-2-2-1), or dropping both BWM and BBM into the DM slots and experimenting with roles. I’ll let you know how I get on.

Mike Bennett
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Mike Bennett

having problems downloading with media any other way please help

richie
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richie

Do you use team instructions by any chance fella? Looks good btw

Martin Gnebus
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Wow, this one is really fantastic so far in my game with Montpellier(currently October 2013). I had tried it few moments ago, played matches with wins 5-2 and 8-0 ! I’m not sure if I was lucky in that second game against Lyon, but the tactic definitely improved the offensive performance of my players…I’m definitely gonna try this later with different teams, big thanks for that :)

Kristoffer
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Kristoffer

Hi, a general question to everyone using this one, are you guys using the AM role for AMC or the Enganche role someone mentioned higher up in the comments field? :)

cheers

MZ
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MZ

Not having a great time with this tactic so far with arsenal. 8 competitive matches and only 2 wins to show for it. Did all the very high intensity tactics training in the run up but i just doesn’t seem to do the job. Any advice?

Andrew
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Andrew

The tactic is working for me. I’m playing Man U, so the player material is obviously top notch. Still I offloaded a lot of the ‘old’ guys – vidic, rvp, nani, carrick etc. – just to try something different with some of the talent from your Best player-list. I went om a 16 game unbeaten run…trashed man City 5-0 on the way. The run came to an unfortunate end last night losing 1-0 away to Tottenham. No tweaks to the tactic except using the ‘control’ mentality as your Chelsea mate also has done with succes. Also moved both IF’s up during defensive corners to pull back some opponents and provide a threat on the counter. Some observations: the tactic is very effective against defensive sides – even maneged to beat stoke, southampton, and Sunderland away which are traditionally pesky teams in fm14. Also the defensive is very solid with only 8 goals conceded in 17 games. Kept man City to 0(!) shots at goal and only 3 attempts. If your players has the stats the tactic seems to bring out the best in the them…Ryan giggs is still going strong as my amc :-) and you get a very varied… Read more »

richie
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richie

Just wondering if there was a way to combat the opposition through ball and lobbed through ball problem against higher opposition

Duncan Wraight
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Duncan Wraight

I’m struggling to get this tactic to work with Southampton. Your 4-5-1 works really well, especially away from home, but I just don’t score goals using your Dynamic variant. I’ve played 22 in the first season, but I’ve ended up using 4-5-1 for most of the games. Schneiderlin has scored 6 as my top goal scorer! I’m still managing to sustain 8th in the Premier League thanks to not conceding too many away from home with the Untouchable tactic but I feel like I should be doing better with the Dynamic. At home I tend to get 20+ shots but score goals and *always* concede; away from home I tend to manage very few shots at all and regularly lose to “lesser” teams that I can beat fairly comfortably with the Untouchable tactic. All of my players suit the roles of this tactic – Schneiderlin (BBM), Wanyama (BWM), Osvaldo (AM L IF), Ramirez (AM R IF), Lambert (ST C) – so I don’t know where I’m going wrong. Followed your instructions pretty much to the letter. Interestingly, this is the fourth tactic I’ve tried using two central midfielders, two inside forwards and one striker (with variations on DM C or… Read more »

Farsklarv
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Farsklarv

Watched some of your stream yestarday, and decided to have a go with this tactic on my brand new At. Madrid save. After a rocky pre season and a hard earned 2-1 win away at Sevilla, I was gonna take on Barcelona in the Supercup! I thought “Well shiiiet, if I struggle to beat Sevilla, I’ll be trashed by Barca! Well, that did not happen! I managed to keep 46% of the posession, a great feat against them! I had 22 shots, they had 8! Took some time to score, but in the end I won it 2-0 from Miranda and Arda Turan. Seems like Turan fits great in the OM role, looking forward to testing this tactic even further! :D

Josephn97
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Josephn97

I have been goin well in my Dortmund carreer i have wont the title twice now and the champions league once however i find it hard to get results in the knockouts of the champions league and away to the top german teams even wen i use the counter method against them p.s- i use control for most my games

gazatron
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gazatron

hey im using you tactic as arsenal but i cant get the best out of ozil:(, is it worth playing him in AMC as a adv.playmaker/support, he is getting 5-7 ratings at most and has only got 2 goals and 5 assists in 24 games, the IF work well with walcott AMR and cazorla AML but i want to see the best from ozil to warrant the high wages and transfer fee paid in real life.

gazatron
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gazatron

btw if it helps my current team is as follows

—szcezesny—

sagna–mertsacker–koscienly–baines

ramsey(BBM)–arteta(BWM)

Walcott(IF)—OZIL(AMC/Support—Cazorla(IF)

GIROUD TM/support

i have changed the striker role to accommodated giroud more as holding up the ball, also wilshere is injured for 9 months :(((

Martin
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Martin

I know you mentioned this wouldn’t be too effective for lower leagues, but I was thinking about using it with my sheff utd, I have quick, clever players compared to league rivals, could it work? I just want to get more out of my wingers, and nothing I do seems to work!

Andrew
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Andrew

Having tried the tactic wih huge succes with Man U for one season I got bored and tried it out with Southampton. It tanked. Then I tried with Everton…and tanked. To be fair I didn’t even play half a season before I quit, but I just couldn’t make it work at all with mid-table player material.

I’ve started a save with Newcastle, and the tactic works fine with a few new faces to the squad. It is essential that you have quick players pretty much throughout the squad. especially IF, WB and DC. Sammy Amoebi is doing surprisingly well as IF with pace and dribbling being the only stats worth mentioning. Og and a more than decent GK is important. My GK in the Southampton save was clowning around and making comical mistakes in every other match (a small ME-problem perhaps?).

Andrew

BKMK
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BKMK

Hey Darren, I am currently using Swansea and i started brilliantly, smashing teams in euro cup and was putting in a few upsets in the premier league, I did go through a dark patch mid season, i used all my spare players for a match as my starting XI were tired, after the spare team lost my XI were losing too and we didn’t get a win for 6 games, but we turned it around with a 2-3 win away from home against Liverpool and we kept going from there, I have almost finished the season and i am in 6th spot on Goal difference, have had a lot of injuries more than usual during the season that has not helped. all in all this tactic is really good, thanks for this bud, been wanting a good 4-2-3-1 for sometime.

wujiajin4883ames
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I’m using bayern Munich with your tactic and so far it has been great , 15 wins from 15 matches in all comps. I’m using the counter strategy but should I change to control to get more from my players?

John
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John

Nice tactic :) but what training would you recommend ?

Rich
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Rich

Hi Darren I agree with a lot of people here that it’s a great attacking tactic. I’ve used it for a season and a half with Liverpool and it’s served me pretty well. It took a while for the players to adapt to it, but that was expected and like a few others here I noticed a fair few yellow cards to begin with, but this settled down as players got used to the tactic. I also noticed the tendency to struggle against balls over the top and after going down 3-0 to Man Utd. (all from balls over the top to Hernandez) I thought I’d have a look at trying to solve it. I’ve found by switching the duty of your ball playing centre back to cover and the centre back to stopper seems to give you those extra few seconds needed to cut out an over the top through ball. It’s working really well for me so far (6 games without conceding) and it would be interesting to see if this works for anyone else

TheHunter
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TheHunter

Heh Darren, thanks for thr great work, been a fan of your site for some time now.

I was wondering, what other role can the striker fill? I am playing with Arsenal and Robert Lewandowski is my main striker but he isn’t comfortable with playing as a DLF (I haven’t tried to train him).

Appreciate any help you can provide :)

Andrew
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Andrew

Hi
Depending on my st prefered role I have tried both poacher and adv forw with great succes. But then again I have really only have succes with the tactic with top 6 teams (including Newcastle). Also I use control setting. I guess the dpl role is more important with the counter setting.

Andrew

TheHunter
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TheHunter

I see. Any idea on whether an Advanced Playmaker can replace the Attacking Midfielder? I want to make the best out of my main players (Ozil, Wilshere)

Andrew
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Andrew

Hello again Did a little experiment with the tactic using chelsea. After having 4 wins and 1 draw (damn west bromwich) I met Arsenal away. Played the same match 3 times – once with the Classic darren setup with counter setting and DLF, once again with darren Classic but using an ADV F, and once with a control setting and an ADV F. The latter has given me succes before with mufc and Newcastle. Team talks and start-11 were identical. The results were 1-3, 2-4 and 2-0. In both games with counter I was demolished…in the win using control and ADV F the tables were turned…arsenal was never close. This is not science, but it does hint at something when meeting top teams…counter setting has som difficulty stopping quality attacks. It almost seemed like Arsenal was playing a counter strategy hitting me on breaks time and again (apart from a couple of annoying goals from corner). Playing with the control setting the Arsenal fast break play was crushed. I know is corresponds with your mates Chelsea game. Just wanted supplement the player role discussion. A little bonus info: I actually played the same Arsenal match 3 times more testing two… Read more »

Will
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Will

Hi I’ve just started using this tactic with West Ham, second season. Is Andy Carroll suited for this tactic? My other option is to use Driussi as DLF, he’s only 18. What would you recommend?

Olaf Dziewirz
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Olaf Dziewirz

Brilliant tactic! Was struggling for a good tactic with Chelsea after finishing third in my first season, decided to download this and won the league on my second season! Made sure the team knew it well during pre-season and I was pretty unstoppable during the season. When I played tough opposition I changed the mentality to standard and that worked pretty well as I was more solid defensively. Overall a great tactic, highly recommend it!

Faud Jama
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Faud Jama

this tactic wont open.when i click on it a how do you want to open this file notice appears. can someone please suggest a solution to my problem.

cameron
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cameron

nice tactic Darren i just wondered when your done creating a tactic how do you test it?

Andrew
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Andrew

Hi again
How much patience was needed when you tested the tactic with swansea before getting results. And did you supplement the squad? I’m very impressed with your results above.

I know it seems strange but I have tried your tactic with 5-6 different teams mostly with good results. Swansea does seem to be on a very slow learning curve though ;-) and michu is really not contributing compared to his fantastic stats.

Andrew

PS. Very nice podcast btw. Balanta is not (the only) god in the game…lacks consistency imo.

Andrew
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Andrew

The results are not “strange”…me testing the tactic with so many teams is. Just to clarify my post ;-)

jakob
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jakob

Hi! I´ve been using this tactic with F.C. Porto and I just won the ligue and reached the semi-final in the Champions League, lost 4-3 on aggregate to Chelsea. I used your 4-5-1 away in Champions League and it worked wonders! Thank you for sharing.

Johannes
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Johannes

Hi! Great tactic, but i have a few questions. I’m currently playing Everton in my 2nd season, and im 2nd in PL thanks to this tactic. I control almost every game, but my team has a big problem scoring goals. Especially the IF’s. Do you have instructions on these players? Im playing Pienar and Musa, but they have scored 2 goals combined in 15 games…

Mariyan
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Mariyan

Hi, Darren. Just wanted to say your tactic is BRILLIANT! I used it on my mandatory Man Utd save and first season I won the Premier League with a record point record of 97!!! Ended up 15 points ahead of City in the end :D Also got the League Cup and reached the Final of the FA cup where I lost on penalties to Tottenham after going a man down. In the Champions league I went out at the quarter finals after losing 4:1 at home to Chelsea when I beat them earlier 3:0 in EPL (just defence was a mess in this game). In the group stages I was with PSG and Dortmund in a group and I finished 1st with 16 point only drawing at Dortmund! But it just shows how great your tactic is and with little luck it can even perform much better! The only signing I did was got Lucas Romero for a proper box to box midfielder and got Corchia for a right back cover so I havent done any major overhaul of the team! Looking forward to next season with a few quality signings. The only problem I have is the AM position… Read more »

Gaurav Chaddah
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I fancy starting a game with Spurs, what would you go with, this or your 4-5-1?

Leon
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Leon

Hey, I’m at the midpoint of my first spurs season using this tactic and I definitely recommend using it.

The 4-5-1 should also be a very important tactic to have along side this one I have found. If used in counter you can really get some results against the big sides. I’ve also found going away to a team like stoke, good passing side with 4-3-2-1 while they have Hughes, it’s best to switch to a counter 4-5-1. Don’t try and use control in those games as you will not be able to have an edge on possession at their grounds.

Thanks Darren for a fantastic tactic.

Another note: Eriksen – my AM – has one of the best ratings in the team which is contrary to what most people have found for players in that position

jimbobby30
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HI Darren! your tactic has got me in the premier league with Leicester but now I struggle to keep possession and keep getting caught on the break. My away form is also really bad as well. I’ve tried both counter and control. I have 10 games to avoid relegation… any pointers would be much appreciated!!

Dimitri SO (@dimisof)
Guest

HI darren! i set this tactic with liverpool and i finish second in premier but the next sason is not working and i have only bad result after 11 games i have only 13 points (13th positions) !my team is stegen-corhia-zouma-sahko-jonathnan silva-lucas leiva-schneiidrlin-hughes-coutinho-sterling-suarez SUB: nedelev-thauvin-vietto-cassasola-bernard-aspas-jay rodriguez-Lorenzo Crisetig-kelly-henderson-mavinga…season 2016-1017!i don’t know what to do….

before the match For opposition instructions i ask assistant manager to set them every match and i have many yellows and sometimes red card and penalty.

John
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John

Why do you let the assistant set OI? Most of the times they tend to set stupid shit such as tackle harder against fast wingers and strong players. They also tend to set tight marking in the midfield which is just really bad I think when we have a bwm. You want the bwm to chase down players and not mark someone. Same goes when your playing against a 2 strikers or a setup with AMC.
He sets closing down and marking for the striker and AMC. So your defenders will close down the AMC and leave too much space for the striker or they will close down one of the strikers and leave space for the other or for the AMC. Is this maybe why everyone tends to get concede a lot from through balls? You are a genius Darren btw thanks for the tactic but I think you are wrong with the assistant setting OI.

Alex
Guest
Alex

Hi Darren just starting with Chelsea, i wondered if you have changed the striker role at all or persevered with dpl supp

ASLE
Guest
ASLE

Can you make a 4-1DM-2-1-2

chris
Guest
chris

Can i be a till pain and ask what player instructions you used

Wardie
Guest
Wardie

During pre-season did you train with your 4-5-1 and this tactic with control as alternate tactics? I’m finding its slowing down the familiarity with the main tactic? Also do you train individual players in the particular roles and positions to fit this tactic? Any fitness training in pre-season?

Gaurav Chaddah
Member

As you said in the post you think this tactic will work in a country like Italy if given time so I was interested to test this out and went for Napoli. I’ve attached my results, we started really poorly and thought it just wouldn’t work but as you said if it’s given time it will, some really good results so just in case anyone is wondering it will work in Italy, just have to give it time. The results are here if you want to see: http://i58.tinypic.com/14wy64k.png

Paul
Guest
Paul

Dear Darren,

gre8 strategy, thank you for educating us. Sorry for my ignorance, but can you pls, in respect to this strategy, explain the following:
1. why do you think BBM is better than DLP (covering space better)?
2. the same for AM ag AP?
3. why dont you play offside traps?
4. why dont you mark tighter?
5. why dont IF play wider? and generally why dont you play wider?
6. Why wb cross from the deep? why didnt you use FB attack?

that’s it for now, however i may have more later :).

thank again,

Paul

Andrew
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Andrew

I’m also very impressed with your 4-5-1 tactic. It’s really surprisingly effective when you have the lead against more or less whatever team.
Andrew

Wardie
Guest
Wardie

Got to say a brilliant tactic, tried your 4-5-1 without much success with Arsenal but this one seems really effective would thoroughly recommend especially for any Arsenal fans who like me were finding this years version a little frustrating, Do you leave you training as Balanced (average) throughout the season or do you let your assistant look after training?

demetrius palmer
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demetrius palmer

Should my IF be inverted? Right footed on the left side and vice versa left footed on the right side? I plan on using this with Everton, do you think I would have to make many big additions? Awesome looking tactic btw.

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