I am pleased to report that my first (and probably best) tactic for Football Manager 2012 can be downloaded! As the title shows I had Barcelona in mind when I created this tactic and that’s quite normal since I believe that today’s Barcelona is playing the best football ever. The tactic was tested with Barcelona in the demo version of the game and then with both Barcelona and Viitorul Constanta in the full version of FM 2012. Now let me explain what this FM 2012 tactic is about…
The Formation
The formation that I chose is not really identical to the real-life Barcelona, the main difference is that I don’t use a defensive midfielder like Guardiola does and that the wide strikers have a more central position in my tactic. You can see the roles and mentalities for each player in the screen shot below so I guess going into details is not necessary. Well, maybe just a quick run-down: sweeper keeper, full backs, central defenders, 2 box to box midfielders, one deep lying playmaker, 2 defensive forwards and one trequartista.
The Team Instructions
As you can notice from the image below the team has a fluid philosophy and an attacking starting strategy, it plays the offside trap along with a high defensive line and the players have to use short passing, press their opponents and use their imagination ;) The central deep-lying midfielder is designed as the team playmaker.
Tactical Analysis
The average positions screen shows a bit more about the players movement during a game, the most important aspect for me is that the team stays compact both on and off the ball.
And that takes me to my favourite shape in football: triangles! When I watch a game I always look for triangles and that is because if three of your players are forming a triangle with reasonably-sized sides then they will have a much easier task in taking out an opponent through short passing. The screen shot below shows two things:
1. My atrocious design skills.
2. The triangles that are formed when my team attacks. The distances between my players are reasonably small and that means they can use short passing to eliminate their opponents, maintain possession and eventually create scoring chances.
I think that the trequartista is the key player in this tactic, mostly because he will often have space to receive the ball between the defensive line and the midfield line of the opponent. That man has to be creative and skilful and Barcelona have the very best man for the job: Lionel Messi. As you can see in the image he has received the ball between the lines, made a quick turn and then had plenty of time and space to play a through pass for the left side striker who then… scored.
The full backs are also very important in this tactic and that is because the opponents tend to cover the middle of the pitch a lot more than the flanks given the threat of our three strikers. That leaves plenty of space for the full backs to exploit, like you can notice in the following picture. The trequartista passed the ball to the right back who had acres of space in front of him, advanced to the byline and then crossed the ball low into the middle of the area creating a good scoring chance.
When we don’t have the ball there’s only one thing we have in mind: get it back as quickly as possible! The players will press their opponents all over the pitch, as you can see two of the strikers doing in the picture below. The result? The opposition right back was under pressure and passed the ball straight to one of our midfielders. Remember this: when you capture the ball in the opposition half you will have a far better chance of creating a dangerous attack than when you get the ball inside your own half and that is because the opposition defence will have a lot less time to get organized.
The Results
I have played almost a full season with Barcelona using this tactic and I guess the league table speaks for itself: we won the title with four games to spare, won 33 games, drew 1 and lost none, scored 110 goals and conceded just 13.
The most pleasing fact is that we have beaten arch rivals Real Madrid six times out of six, scored 16 and conceded just 3 in the process. I’m so sorry José :)
One of the best matches of the season was away at Atletico Madrid, a strong team, but we managed to beat them 5-0 away from home at the end of a game that we dominated on all aspects. In fact, there were just a few games in which we had less than 60% ball possession.
However, I have noticed that we were having some problems in some away games and that’s what pushed me to create an away version of the tactic. I have employed this version against Man City in the Champions League and, as you can see, we were not as flamboyant in attack but we still had very good possession and kept the opposition fairly quiet.
The main change in the away tactic is the strategy which goes from attacking to counter, the defensive line is pushed a bit deeper and doesn’t play the offside trap any more, the tempo is slower, the team is a bit wider and does employ time wasting sometimes.
Last but not least, the set pieces approach is mostly borrowed from Darren’s excellent guide, not entirely but the main things are there. You will need players with good passing for this tactic, that is essential, and I also suggest loading the counter version as a backup tactic in match preparation. Here are the download links:
— Counter Version —
After downloading the files you have to place them in the Documents>Sports Interactive>Football Manager 2012>tactics folder and then you will be able to find them in the game tactics screen under «archived tactics».
That’s about it, enjoy the tactic and please ask any questions if you have them or provide feedback in order to improve this FM 2012 tactic. Oh, and enjoy three videos of Barcelona playing this tactic: click here to watch, click here to watch, click here to watch
P.S.: I have to say that Messi is fabulous in FM 2012, fabulous! :)
UPDATE
— I also won the Champions League and Spanish Cup with Barcelona
— I won the Romanian Second Division title with Viitorul Constanta in my first season (read all about that here)
vaibhavc
27 октября, 2011 at 14:07
Wow, 100 points and four games remaining. In the screenshot, where is Xavi? And Villa starts instead of Sanchez most of the time right?
Johnny Karp
27 октября, 2011 at 15:13
I rotated the players a lot, especially in midfield and attack so I guess Xavi was either on the bench or injured at the time of the screen shot.
Trimbi
14 февраля, 2012 at 13:53
hi johnny can you can you give me 4-3-1-2 Tactic for ac milan and instructions ?
Johnny Karp
14 февраля, 2012 at 19:20
I think you could try to adapt Darren’s Arsenal tactic: https://www.footballmanagerstory.com/2011/10/football-manager-2012-arsenal-tactic-play-the-passing-game/
kevin
30 марта, 2012 at 01:48
Link wont work. Any help?
Johnny Karp
30 марта, 2012 at 07:24
The link does work for me but you can try these alternative links:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/359776/4-3-3%20Barcelona_v4%20%28Viitorul%20C-%C5%A3a%2C%20Sep%202011%29.tac
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/359776/4-3-3%20Barcelona_v4_counter%20%28Viitorul%20C-%C5%A3a%2C%20Nov%202011%29.tac
kevin
30 марта, 2012 at 14:52
Thanks Johnny
Martin Pickard
27 октября, 2011 at 15:04
yep I think you’ve created a ‘MONSTER’ of a tactic! awesome work yet again Johnny :)
Johnny Karp
27 октября, 2011 at 15:14
Thanks, I hope it will give me results with my small Romanian team too.
Stromson
27 октября, 2011 at 18:27
The triangles! I see them everywhere! *cowers in a corner* So many triangles…
Johnny Karp
27 октября, 2011 at 18:30
:) Maybe I should seek professional help? :)
Darren Smith
27 октября, 2011 at 19:01
Very nice tactic Johnny and the results say it all…I find it hilarious when people make negative remarks to tactic posts saying its easy to do etc etc but I think we all know its tough to make your team play a precise style and make them win at the same time, certainly seems like this tactic has that and no one can argue with the results.
p.s. I share the same obsession with triangles, especially when watching real life matches.
Johnny Karp
27 октября, 2011 at 20:36
Thanks Darren, I’m relieved to find out that I’m not the only one seeing triangles :)
Kevin
28 октября, 2011 at 00:59
What an impressive looking tactic. I’m sure people who are playing with resonably good teams will be downloading this one.I really like the triangle pictures, reminds me of my school days and how we use to play when my class won the School championship 5 consecutive years!
Great stuff!!
Johnny Karp
28 октября, 2011 at 08:40
Thanks Kevin and congrats on your competitive history! :)
tom
28 октября, 2011 at 08:24
My first thoughts…WHAT NO XAVI??….but then I realised the screenshot was showing the formation not the line up…
Very interesting…i would not have thought to play two box2box midfielders…but now ive read it it certainly makes sense…the same with defensive forwards…but again its logical…may i ask…why not pique as a ball playing centre back?…
The reason i like this website is that its a real eye opener…this has made me think alot more about how to play…i would have flooded the midfield with playmakers if i was barce…but now i see that that is not the only option…so thank you :)
Seeing as your a tactical genius…what are your thoughts on ‘never changing a winning formation’?…im 22 games in (19 Wins) and havent lost…whilst the team are still not playing the passing game i want i’m reluctant to make any changes to a side that keeps winning…I’m Man Utd…and my highlight was a 4-0 win against man city…playing a 4-2-2-2 formation that i have not changed since i started FM12…just your opinion would be great…
A mention to Eden Hazard who has tore up the prem…so far hes won every young player of the month award…and is top of the assists with 19….
(sorry for the long post — coffee overload)
Johnny Karp
28 октября, 2011 at 08:44
Thanks for the long post :) Now on to your questions… About Pique, I didn’t feel the need to change his role because I was quite satisfied with the whole back four. About the formation, I think that you shouldn’t make radical changes during the season because that might give you bad results but you can surely tweak it slightly to achieve the passing game that you want. However, you have to keep an eye on match preparation and see if your lads fully understand the tactic, you can’t really judge the way they play until they reach reasonable familiarity levels on all aspects of a tactic.
Luis
30 октября, 2011 at 14:24
men I have a bet with a corduroy xavi who manages to consistently throughout the season over 100 completions sometimes I succeed I wonder if you did want to do with that tactic
Johnny Karp
30 октября, 2011 at 15:50
No, that wasn’t my aim. However, we did get good passing completion percentages for all players overall.
Quiggles
30 октября, 2011 at 15:10
Does this tactic work with any other teams, or is Barcelona the only tried and tested team?
Johnny Karp
30 октября, 2011 at 15:52
I’m currently using it on a Romanian Second Division team, looking pretty good so far in terms of results. You can check out the story here: https://www.footballmanagerstory.com/category/johnny-viitorul/
Matt Clark
30 октября, 2011 at 17:18
brilliant tactic johnny though not one i would personally use with barca (though it replicates their play perfectly) but thats purely because i would want inniesta on the left in order to play xavi and fabregas in cm.
i tried this with chelsea (who seem perfect for this tactic) and amassed 103 points in the first season having made no transfers
simply amazing results the highlight definitely being 6-0 at the emirates which actually secured the title
though i was a little surprised you hadnt set players to rotate just to add that extra bit from barca about not knowing where they’re gonna come at you
once again brilliant johnny, brilliant
Johnny Karp
31 октября, 2011 at 06:50
Thanks Matt, this tactic is not a 100% replica of Barcelona’s tactic, that was not my goal. But I’m happy to see that you’re getting good results with it. About the player rotation, allowing them much creative freedom and also freedom to roam from position had a good enough effect and that is why I didn’t consider setting them to swap positions.
Cs.Sándor
1 ноября, 2011 at 10:38
HY!
Thanks for the upload!
I have a problem with the download: don’t work…
Johnny Karp
1 ноября, 2011 at 10:49
There seems to be a temporary problem with those links, here is a new set:
http://db.tt/xNeaKh83
http://db.tt/MYv8M53S
Cs.Sándor
1 ноября, 2011 at 10:54
ThankYou!
Great!!!!
:-)
Bob Peters
2 ноября, 2011 at 09:10
first of all, your tactic looks very impressive! Second, I was wondering if you use any side-line instructions?
Im currently using the tactic with fc Twente and so far I have won all my matches but im not really domination at this moment,… guess I have to wait untill the team is used to the formation :)
Keep on going mate!
Johnny Karp
2 ноября, 2011 at 09:16
Thanks mate. I generally don’t use any touchline instructions but sometimes I do tell them to retain possession when we’re already 2 or 3 goals ahead. Regarding the domination, that happened to me with Barcelona until the players got fairly familiar with the tactic so I hope you will have the same experience with Twente.
Rod
2 ноября, 2011 at 17:56
I must say that this is the best Barcelona tactic i have ever tested. I tried it without signigns and the team looks marvelous, 30 wins, 3 draws, 0 losses. 115 scored, and only 5 conceded. I made a very few tweaks, minimum. Then, surprised, i tried it with a not so good team, and worked very well, you definitely are a tactic genius.
Johnny Karp
2 ноября, 2011 at 18:13
Thanks for the compliment mate, I’m very happy that you enjoyed good results and good football with this tactic. Feel free to share the tweaks though, those might help other fellow managers ;)
NIclas
3 ноября, 2011 at 08:58
Your tactic seems really incredible, I’ll try it as soon as i come home! (:
I have some questions though.
how did it go in the champions league, and who turned out to be your topscorer? (;
great work!
Johnny Karp
3 ноября, 2011 at 12:47
Thanks mate. We won the Champions League and the Spanish Cup and Messi was the top scorer with around 45 goals in 38 apps (not exactly sure about the numbers but they are around those figures).
NIclas
3 ноября, 2011 at 14:50
sounds really good, seriously amazing!(:
TC1982
4 ноября, 2011 at 22:43
Using your tactic with Aston Villa. In my first season & initially had a bit of success sitting top after 20 games. However I’ve experienced a poor run of form recently & noticed that I am conceding a lot of goals (53 in 30 games!). Any advice would be appreciated.
I’ve mainly used the home tactic as my players rarely play well using the counter tactic.
PS Darren Bent has been on fire!
Thanks for the hard work Johnny, going to keep persisting with the tactics.
Johnny Karp
5 ноября, 2011 at 10:44
Thanks mate. Those are quite a few goals conceded but you have to tell me how those goals came (set pieces, open play), otherwise it would be next to impossible for me to guess what goes wrong there.
TC1982
5 ноября, 2011 at 11:06
The goals seem to come from mainly open play, often on the counter attack with a ball over the top of my defence. I think in part in may be due to the pace of Dunne & Collins!
Going through a real strange period on my game, won the first 10 matches including a 3-0 defeat of Man City. Now can’t buy a win, the team has stopped passing the ball as much & the opposition are having as many chances per game as me.
Great tactic but something has gone wrong with my team somewhere.
Johnny Karp
5 ноября, 2011 at 11:21
If your defenders are slow then it’s quite normal to concede lots of goals like that. You have to use a deeper defensive line if you have slow defenders, otherwise you will be quite exposed to counter attacks and long balls behind the defence. Now your players might also experience a confidence problem if the results are not good, check their morale and try to improve that aspect with a team meeting or encourage them via team talks.
JPereira
6 ноября, 2011 at 15:01
Hi there. I’m using your tactic with Sporting Clube de Portugal and i have a doubt concerning the players to use. I have many midfielders and players like capel, jeffren, matias fernandez, izmailov, bojinov. Do you think a winger could play on front, or should be only a striker?
Johnny Karp
6 ноября, 2011 at 15:11
I have retrained a couple of wingers as strikers and they did well. I think that Capel or Jeffren could surely do the job as defensive strikers but you should train them for this position, just like I did with Pedro for instance.
JPereira
6 ноября, 2011 at 15:19
I’ll do that. Hope it helps, cause it would be a shame to sell these players. Thanks
Johnny Karp
6 ноября, 2011 at 15:21
It should work, at least for a few of them. Let me know how it goes.
hamzaivian
6 ноября, 2011 at 17:51
this is a good tactic that i win with it the super cup spanish and european ,but messi is always missing occasions and he hasn’t score any goal in 6 matches, and pedro is unconvincing in the defensive striker position. Plz help me!!
Johnny Karp
6 ноября, 2011 at 18:09
It can’t work right away but if you keep going you’ll see the results. You can also try to encourage your players and boost their morale, even Messi needs a pat on the back now and again.
Jamie Lewis
8 ноября, 2011 at 04:02
I really like all the advice I’m getting from this site!
I’m curious about how it all ties together. Is it pretty much mix and match, or do some parts work better together than others?
Like for instance with this tactic; Did it matter what kind of training schedule you used? Other than good passers, did you need (or want) to pick up any other type of players to make this work well when not using it with Barcelona?
Johnny Karp
8 ноября, 2011 at 07:15
I’d say it’s mix and match, yes. I used the default training schedules so I don’t think that a training schedule will affect the way the team plays, at least not on short term. I’d also say that you also need fast defenders but that’s quite obvious since this tactic has a very high defensive line.
Jonny Harb
8 ноября, 2011 at 09:23
This tactic is the best ive ever used on the game! im swansea city and giving teams the run around with this tactic!! Swansea try to base their tactics on Barca in real life, so chuffed with this tactic!!
Download it fellas!!
jon
Johnny Karp
8 ноября, 2011 at 09:41
Thanks for the enthusiasm mate, I’m very happy that you are getting the results with this tactic.
Mike Dodgson
8 ноября, 2011 at 19:47
Hi Johnny — well done on a great post and very good results!
I’m going to use this in a new save in the Premiership… not sure of the team yet.
Few questions for you:
Do you use any shouts for any of the tactics?
Do you use any opposition instructions at all… either by you or your assistant?
What match preparation do you use?
As for the Counter tactic, do you use this against bigger teams purely away?
Sorry for all of the questions! :-)
Johnny Karp
8 ноября, 2011 at 20:42
No problem mate, I’m here to answer your questions so don’t worry about that. On to the answers now: I didn’t use any shouts on a regular basis, I always used the opposition instructions suggested by the assistant and also left him to handle match preparation. I used the counter tactic only in the second half of the season and only in away games, regardless of the opponent. However, the attacking tactic works well even away from home in most cases but I felt that the counter tactic offered a bit more safety at the back in away matches.
Mike Dodgson
8 ноября, 2011 at 21:23
Brilliant, thanks for your reply.
What type of players would you recommend for the wide strikers… in a perfect world I’d love sanchez or pedro but with Newcastle it’s sadly not possible. Do you have say 3 recommended attributes for those positions… as a guide?
Any other advice would help too, thanks!
Johnny Karp
9 ноября, 2011 at 07:29
I’d say that any type of striker would do the job but I prefer fast ones (good pace and acceleration) and good flair could be a nice bonus.
Mike Dodgson
9 ноября, 2011 at 11:21
Thanks again.
Questions keep coming :-)
What kind of player would you have where you play messi… I’m guessing someone with a good first touch and creativity? Do they have to be a striker?
Johnny Karp
9 ноября, 2011 at 18:41
A creative player would do best there. I have used Iniesta in that role as well, so I guess a non-striker could work but that player should be more or less familiar with that role.
poolash
12 ноября, 2011 at 06:08
Seems i had a problem to import the tactics..i put the TAC file into Document>Football Manager 2012> tactics but when i wanted to import the tactics there were nothing inside the folder..help!
Johnny Karp
12 ноября, 2011 at 08:50
If the file is in that folder you should be able to find it under «archived tactics» in the game, no need to import it.
Mike Dodgson
12 ноября, 2011 at 13:52
Has this been tested in the premiership?
Would you advise to use the Counter tactic in away games or games against higher opposition?
Johnny Karp
12 ноября, 2011 at 14:00
No, I haven’t tested it in the Premiership but some of the previous commentators did. I only used the counter version in away games regardless of the opposition but you should test and see which way works best for your team.
Mike Dodgson
14 ноября, 2011 at 14:40
Working brilliantly with me so far as Spurs in the 1st season, as below:
Premiership So Far: http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9218/premiershipsofar.jpg
Euro Qualification: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1803/eurosofar.jpg
Your a genius — the play is so good to watch, solid at the back and slick as ever going forward…
Have you release at any other forum? Would you mind if I did so for you?
Johnny Karp
14 ноября, 2011 at 14:55
Thanks mate, I’m happy to hear that you like the way your team plays with this tactic. As for the other forums, you can mention the tactic if you want but please link back to the original post.
Mike Dodgson
14 ноября, 2011 at 20:04
I will, but to make the most out of it I will wait till the end of the season to see what success I have.
Are you still using the tactics as they are?
Johnny Karp
14 ноября, 2011 at 20:13
Yes, I’m still using the same versions. If I’ll make changes I will post updates ;)
Mike Dodgson
16 ноября, 2011 at 12:47
Hi Johnny,
I’ve posted on 2 other forums, and detailed my success in there too so you can have a read: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/86873-%5Bfm12%5D-433-fa-cup-winners-league-cup-winners-euro-cup-winners-4th-prem-spurs.html#post1362640
Thanks again, it’s worked wonders as it is for you — a big well done!
Johnny Karp
16 ноября, 2011 at 13:18
Thanks mate, I hope it will work well for many other fellow managers.
Papaille
16 ноября, 2011 at 20:50
Hi Johnny Karp !
First of all, I want to thanks you for sharing your tactic ! But I have one question. Can I use a slow striker in your tactic? I have a wonderkid regen, but he’s slow (11 pace, 14 speed)
And i’m playing with Lille OSC, do you think Eden hazard can be a good playmaker? He’s poor on team work…
Papaille
16 ноября, 2011 at 21:42
Just find the answer by myself. Hazard in the Messi Role seems to be perfect. Defensive striker status is not suitable for my squad. The left Striker is now a «Pivot» in french (Target striker?), and the right striker is an Fast striker.
For now, it works well.
Johnny Karp
17 ноября, 2011 at 08:03
I’m glad that your tweaks are working, adapting the tactic to your players is a good choice.
Johnny Karp
17 ноября, 2011 at 08:01
Hazard would be good as a trequartista in my view. And that striker should do well, he’s not too slow.
Rashmi Ranjan Patra
20 ноября, 2011 at 15:34
hi jhonny i m a fan of ur blog dude, i m from india , i m nt a regular blogger and i have started playing fm from 11 version ,i m kind of a new to this ,i used to play fifa game a lot ,and i m now trying my hand over fm . i love reading blog by u and danny ,ur guyz r great man..
currently i m using ur bracelona tactics both home and away . i m manging malaga of spanish league …..
i m having a problem with defensive forward players , i m quite confused whats the attribute i should look for a player whom i could play in that position .
i guess defensive forward players need marking and tackling attribute too but i cant find a player who has a min of 10 in those attribute , i m currently using benitez and schiebler as df
would u plz give some suggestion about it …….
Johnny Karp
20 ноября, 2011 at 17:28
Thanks for the kind words mate. You don’t have to look too hard for defensive forwards, most good strikers should do pretty well there and you definitely don’t need men with good tackling or marking as those positions don’t really require those attributes.
Rashmi Ranjan Patra
24 ноября, 2011 at 19:34
hey jhonny i have finshed 4th in spanish league using ur tactics . ur tactics is great man .simply brilliant ……. i have signed verratti for deep playmaker role ..
juanmi /matavz r my terquesta …
would u give me some gud striker name whom i could play in defensive forward role ..
i m about to start my 2nd season ,it would b great help for me ……
Johnny Karp
25 ноября, 2011 at 06:30
Glad to hear it’s working for you. I would suggest Vaclav Kadlec but you can find a whole list of good strikers here: https://footballmanagerstory.com/scout/category/fm-2012-strikers/
jon
26 ноября, 2011 at 20:08
not hard to win with barca
Johnny Karp
27 ноября, 2011 at 08:44
I agree but how you win is also important.
Eddie
13 декабря, 2011 at 02:17
I disagree. It is not so easy to win with Barca. I played two seasons without having access to this brilliant tactic. So, I won the two Spains. In one, made 108 points and the other 90 (saving holders in the final games). However, falls in two Champions League and had trouble against Real Madrid. Test this tactic and it looks wonderful. Indeed, congratulations to the creator.
PS: Sorry, I am Brazilian, and I used google translator.
:)
Johnny Karp
13 декабря, 2011 at 10:29
Thanks, I’m happy that you liked the tactic.
Rashmi Ranjan Patra
27 ноября, 2011 at 10:02
hi thnks man for that link its help me a great i found gud striker and midfilder and defender from that list
i have signed eric torres,carlos fierro for my defensive forward and they r playing great
i m playing kovacic in bbm role and verratti as my deep lying playmaker
currently in my second season i m on top of league in spanish league
Johnny Karp
27 ноября, 2011 at 11:00
Well done!
Shtazian
29 ноября, 2011 at 22:22
Johnny Karp I’ve tried your tactic with Steaua Bucharest and I seem to leak loads of goals… The results are awful after first 4 matches:
Otelul — Steaua 2-2 Supercup
Steaua — Dinamo 0-6 !!!!
Otelul — Steaua 3-1
Steaua — Mioveni 1-0
Vaslui — Steaua 3-1
Please help me. I need some instructions.. I mention that even though i’ve played this game for some years, i’m not capable to make my own tactic…
Johnny Karp
30 ноября, 2011 at 06:00
It’s difficult to say what happened there, you have to pay attention to the matches and see where the goals care coming from and then try to find solutions to these problems. The team has really conceded a lot but it hasn’t scored enough either so I guess you didn’t even have good possession which makes me think that either the players are not familiar at all with the tactic or they are not adapted to it (they have poor passing skills for instance). Bottom line: watch the matches and try to see what happens and think with your own head, it’s difficult for me to give you a solution when I don’t know the team and haven’t seen the matches.
Harv
30 ноября, 2011 at 09:00
Wow Johnny! This looks amazing. People might say it isn’t hard to win with barca but like you say its about the way you play. Barca in real life would probably be easy to manage with the World Class players they have but the way Guardiola sets up the team is something that no other manager could probably do. I have made some tactics with my team scoring 150 goals a season but none with this kind of movement. Great work!!
Johnny Karp
30 ноября, 2011 at 09:56
Thanks mate, I’m happy that you liked it.
Liam
30 ноября, 2011 at 11:10
Johnny, the attacking part of the tactic is great but i’m having trouble defensively. I beat Fulham 9-5 with your tactic. With my own tactic I had only conceded 9 goals in 20 games. :/ My defence is Johnson Shawcross Agger Jose Enrique. Any suggestions?
Johnny Karp
30 ноября, 2011 at 12:20
I have to repeat what I have said a few times already: see if there is a pattern in the goals you are conceding (most of them on counter attacks for instance or from set pieces and so on) and then try to address that problem either through match preparation or tactical tweaks. You can also try to use the counter version and see if that gives you better results.
Joao Pacheco
8 декабря, 2011 at 15:11
hey, what about busquets? defensive midfielder?
Johnny Karp
8 декабря, 2011 at 16:02
Busquets was a reliable backup but I admit I don’t like him too much, mostly because he keeps diving…
HBK
10 декабря, 2011 at 04:51
What are your pitch dimensions? I understand that short passing often works best with minimized dimensions in FM although that’s not necessarily the case in real-life.
Johnny Karp
10 декабря, 2011 at 08:39
I always use the standard pitch dimension but I don’t think that has much of an impact.
Danke
10 декабря, 2011 at 19:12
I’ve noticed that changing only a single position in this tactic, I make less than many, I use the 3-4-3, I earn less than against, or will be so I have a run anything else, I should stick with the side the original tactic or take 3 permanent central?
Johnny Karp
10 декабря, 2011 at 19:18
I am sorry but I can’t understand what you’re trying to say.
Danke
10 декабря, 2011 at 23:51
What I mean playing with 3 central defenders line Will Become the team much less Than 4 defenders.
Danke
10 декабря, 2011 at 23:56
Mejor te lo exlico en español, el sistema 4-3-3 , lo que hago es modificar una sola posicion, dejo 3 centrales y agrego un cd en el medio, dejando 4 mediocampistas, y 3 arriba sin tocar las funciones que implementaste.
Johnny Karp
11 декабря, 2011 at 09:48
I guess it could work with 3 central defenders, I haven’t tried it. But doesn’t that leave too much space down the flanks?
Daniel
11 декабря, 2011 at 11:04
Hi Johnny,
Just wondering, obviously youve had success with a romanian lower league side, so it would be safe of me to presume it would work well with a lower league english side, provided i recruit the right type of players?
Johnny Karp
11 декабря, 2011 at 11:30
I guess it could work, I can’t see why not. I’d be quite curious to see if it does though so if you try it please keep me posted ;)
Danke
11 декабря, 2011 at 11:17
Mi pregunta es si a la tactica original 4-3-3 le saco la opcion de entradas agresivas y le dejo suave, cambia mi forma de juego?, tengo mas posibilidades de perder?
Johnny Karp
11 декабря, 2011 at 11:30
I don’t know, you’ll have to try and see what happens.
Manu Le Coq
11 декабря, 2011 at 23:03
hello im frensh sorry for the language pastore in trequartista is good for psg please
Johnny Karp
12 декабря, 2011 at 07:17
He should be pretty good.
Danke
12 декабря, 2011 at 03:14
mi pregunta es sobre los delanteros o atacantes, creo muchas situaciones de gol, pero muy poco se anota, uno o nada
Johnny Karp
12 декабря, 2011 at 07:16
Strikers miss with any tactic, if you create chances they will start scoring sooner or later.
Manu Le Coq
12 декабря, 2011 at 07:20
a votre avis pastore pourrait il faire un bon Trequartista
et ou je pourrais faire jouer nene aide moi
Johnny Karp
12 декабря, 2011 at 09:22
Je pense que Pastore pourrait faire un bon trequartista mais it pourrait jouer bien comme milieu central, Nene pourrait etre un bon «defensive forward».
Manu Le Coq
12 декабря, 2011 at 13:23
JE REMERCIE DU CONSEIL ET DE MA VOIR REPONDU JTE TIEN O COURANT DE MA SAISON BIENTOT
Manu Le Coq
12 декабря, 2011 at 07:38
hoareau pastore gameiro
nene martin menez
tiene sako toure jallet ? the position is good for the milieu
asido
12 декабря, 2011 at 08:33
can we use it for 4-4-2 formation?
Johnny Karp
12 декабря, 2011 at 09:20
You can tweak it for a 4-4-2 formation but since I haven’t tried it I can’t really tell you how or if it will work.
Danke
12 декабря, 2011 at 10:49
Una ultima pregunta, que trequartista o enganche delantero como caracteristicas principales deba tener?, muchas gracias!.
Johnny Karp
12 декабря, 2011 at 15:22
You can see those in the game in the player attributes screen by selecting the respective role.
Danke
12 декабря, 2011 at 18:30
Tengo mayor posesion, tengo mayor disparos al arco, mis jugadores con moral alta y en su posicion correcta, pero porque me ganan partidos, que estoy haciendo mal?
Johnny Karp
12 декабря, 2011 at 21:42
I’m sorry mate but I think I have given you all the help that I could give considering the language barrier. I do understand a bit of Spanish but not too much.
Danke
12 декабря, 2011 at 22:04
I have more possession, I have more shots on goal, my players morale and its correct position, but because I win games, I’m doing wrong?
Danke
12 декабря, 2011 at 23:18
Drawing conclusions your other tactics, the Arsenal, I have been more effective, I won most of the parties
Mark
17 декабря, 2011 at 10:56
Hi Johnny, thanks for the tactic, you’ve clearly put a lot of time and energy into it, and I’m pretty amazed that it is possible to get a team to play so close to the way they do in real life.
I am currently trying it out with Barcelona, and though the stats are okay (11-3-0 in the league, 3-2-1 in the Champions Cup group stage) I’m a bit puzzled by a couple of things.
First off, Xavi (and for that matter Iniesta), how do they perform when you’re in the manager seat? They’ve had a tough time under my wings, none of them managing to get above 7.00 in average. I’ve used Xavi as the playmaker, Iniesta as the left Box to Box mid. I’ve also had some problems getting Mascherano to fit into the Box to Box role, which isn’t really an issue though, seeing as the general douchiness of his being make him (and Busquets) obvious items on the transferlist in January.
Secondly the left Defensive Forward, when you use David Villa, do you really play him that way too? To me it doesn’t seem that he’s really capable of that, neither attribute-wise or in the games, where he hasn’t been convincing in that role. Instead I’ve played him as a Poacher, where he’s been lethal and as such that shouldn’t be a problem, except for the fact that I feel, it is necessary to use Defensive Forwards due to the attacking mentality of the tactic in general.
Johnny Karp
17 декабря, 2011 at 11:06
I have experienced the same issues early on but once the players get more and more familiar with the tactic their performances should improve, at least they did under my reign at Barcelona.
Mark
17 декабря, 2011 at 11:17
Thank you for the quick reply.
Cristi
18 декабря, 2011 at 22:55
Match preparation? OI? Pep talk? Thank you.
Johnny Karp
19 декабря, 2011 at 06:18
I left all those matters in the hands of the assistant manager, the only thing that you have to make sure of is that you have both versions of the tactic in match preparation.
Harv
19 декабря, 2011 at 12:02
Johnny do you think this would work with Valencia?
Johnny Karp
19 декабря, 2011 at 22:18
It should work with any team as long as you have good players and a bit of patience.
Ivo Javi Almeida
20 декабря, 2011 at 17:25
U say that you play in demo version. Dem version goes till December. How u have 34 games played in La Liga?
Ivo Javi Almeida
20 декабря, 2011 at 17:29
sorry! U paly the full version too. My bad! I will try this tactic in Chelsea!
Johnny Karp
20 декабря, 2011 at 17:38
I started in the demo version and then continued the save when I got the full game. Good luck with Chelsea!
Ivo Javi Almeida
20 декабря, 2011 at 18:19
Thanks man. My trequartista will be Fernando Torres.. lets see ;)
Johnny Karp
20 декабря, 2011 at 18:55
He should do well, let me know ;)
Ivo Javi Almeida
22 декабря, 2011 at 19:39
Humm. Drogba do it better. The others 2 (DF) change between Torres, Mata or Hulk!
leleo
22 декабря, 2011 at 20:15
i cant seem to download this tactics i put it in the tactics folder but it still doesnt show up on the tactics. please help!
Johnny Karp
23 декабря, 2011 at 06:26
If you placed it in the correct folder you should be able to see it under «archived tactics» in your game tactics screen.
Gabriel Lima
28 декабря, 2011 at 00:41
Johnny esta tática ela foi feita especialmente para o Barcelona ? Pode Usar em outras equipes, abraços.
Português -> Brazilian
Inglês -> English
Johnny this tactic it was made especially for Barcelona? Can Use on other teams, hugs.
Portuguese -> Brazilian
English -> Português
Gabriel Lima
28 декабря, 2011 at 01:25
Queria saber tambem uma coisa, eu comprei um jogador na Liga BBVA (Espanhol) so que coloquei ele no banco e faltava o número da camisa e não da pra tirar ele do banco e nem consigo colocar o número da camisa e mandar pra Liga e agora o que faço, abraços.
Português — > Brazilian
Inglês -> English
Also wanted to know one thing, I bought a player in Liga BBVA (Spanish) so I put it in the bank and the shirt number of missing and not to get him out of the bank and can not even put the number of the shirt and send to the League and now I do hugs.
Johnny Karp
28 декабря, 2011 at 11:51
The Spanish league has a registration window when you can register a 25-man squad, that player has to be registered if you want to use him. The first window closes in September I think and the next one is in January.
Johnny Karp
28 декабря, 2011 at 11:50
I am using it with another team and many others do so it definitely can work with other teams as well.
Manu Le Coq
28 декабря, 2011 at 11:04
i have finished my season with the psg I have to end the first one with 87 points 27 victories 6 invalid(nul) and defaites 2.
And big surprise, jai to gain(win) the eurapa league against city Manchester 2 1 my Trequartista javier pastore my satisfied he has to mark 37 goal in 57 match I congratulate you on your tactics bravo.
But i have a probleme with my 2 aggressors defensif, (hulk ,néné, menez ,gameiro 10 GOAL EACH ) he does not stand out enough and rarely centers in front of the goal line could you m help?
I do not know if I have to put Midfielders and Wingers or striker has their positions thank you!!!!!!
Johnny Karp
28 декабря, 2011 at 11:53
That was a pretty good season, well done! I don’t have an answer to your question though, you should try the players in various positions or change their roles if you are not satisfied with their performances.
Manu Le Coq
28 декабря, 2011 at 13:11
Have to end my season he remained in me 3 match and pastore my Trequartista has of it to take advantage to mark 7 purposes he finished better striker with 23but better boatman with 16 master keys(passes) and any confused(merged) comeption 41but in conclusion your tactics really emphasizes your Trequartista
Manu Le Coq
28 декабря, 2011 at 13:17
Do you know the tactics devasto? If yes you think that your tactics can make the weight against her?
Johnny Karp
28 декабря, 2011 at 14:03
I do know that tactic, it’s quite attacking so I would use the counter version against it.