Football Manager 2012 best cheap wonderkids XI

FM 2012 cheap players

written by Darren Smith

Updated version for patch 12.2 (11/08/12)

Hey guys and welcome to my Football Manager 2012 best cheap wonderkids XI. This post includes some of the best FM 2012 wonderkids, organised into a team that would work well and cost less than £24 million. All the asking prices shown are taken from  a newly started game using patch 12.2 and have been negotiated down to the lowest possible fee. I personally rate all these players as minimum 4 star potential but most of them are 4.5 to 5 star players in my opinion. So if you want to sign a Football Manager 2012 best cheap wonderkids XI for less than £24 million then carry on reading. While all these players may not be brilliant from the start, they develop into absolute beasts, hence I have provided you with a player profile for each individual player (which you can see by clicking their names.) I have also provided each players profile image from 2019 (which you can see by clicking ‘2019 profile’ next to the players name.)

Football Manager 2012 best cheap wonderkids XI

GK – Luis Guilherme aged 19, costs£300K from Botafogo (click here to see profile in 2019)

DR – Sime Vrsaljko aged 19, costs £1 million from Dinamo (click here to see profile in 2017)

DL – Lucas Digne aged 17, costs £1.3 million from Lille (click here to see profile in 2018)

DC – Kara aged 21, costs £1.0 million from Tromso (click here to see profile in 2015)

DC – Giuseppe Prestia aged 17, costs £1.3 million from Palermo (click here to see profile in 2018)

CM – Marco Verratti aged 18, costs £2.5 million from Pescara (click here to see profile in 2015)

CM – Mateo Kovacic aged 17, costs £3.8 million from Dinamo (click here to see profile in 2018)

RW – Joel Valencia aged 16, costs £875K from Zaragoza (click here to see profile in 2016)

LW – Andriy Yarmolenko aged 21, costs £8.75 million from Dinano Kyiv (click here to see profile in 2019)

ST – Hervin Ongenda aged 16, costs £2 million from PSG (click here to see profile in 2020)

ST – Carlos Fierro aged 16, costs £1.2 million from Chivas (click here to see profile in 2019)

Total cost of FM 2012 best cheap wonderkid XI = £23.8 million (BARGAIN!)

I have selected this Football Manager 2012 best cheap wonderkids XI with variety and a nice mixture of talent, potential and current ability. You should be able to sign these players and use them in rotation with your current squad, then within three seasons these wonderkids will be ready to show their true class, some will be ready before that. Do the maths, spend less than £24 million on a starting XI that will last at least 10 years. That equals £2.4 million per season, now that is an absolute bargain and leaves you a whole lot of cash to splash on specialised players every other year.

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  • comment avatar Johnny Karp November 6, 2011

    Excellent stuff Darren, this is a dream-team!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith November 6, 2011

      Thanks Johnny, there are a few weak links but that midfield is just to die for :)

      • comment avatar Nick Jones March 16, 2012

        Hi Darren. Wouldn’t you have Alex Teixeira ahead of sterling in this team? He’s half the price and much better to start with. Wilson is also very expensive for a youngster. Prestia would be a good cheap replacement.

        • comment avatar Darren Smith March 16, 2012

          This post is just an example of what you can get for your money as opposed to my preferred XI, that is because I do not update the squad, its been the same from the beginning so there are bound to be many better options now.

          • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 19, 2012

            Why do 2 people wait a year to join. I think it is in the contranct but i am not sure

      • comment avatar Callum Bricknall June 2, 2012

        try vrsaljko from dinamo and erick torres aswell also jean marie donguo(unsure how last name is spelt) from barcelona

        • comment avatar Darren Smith June 2, 2012

          We’ve already profiled all of them bar Dongoe who looks capable but not improved enough in my saves to get a profile.

        • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 20, 2012

          Will Keane is a deacent player i get him on loan on all smaller clubs

      • comment avatar Sunderland A.F.C August 20, 2012

        Yeah that medfeild is awsome! At the start the defence is pretty poor on there own. Another striker that i like Leandro Damiao. But he is a bit expensive. I got him on loan for sunderland he scored 28 in 31 games for is in the EPL. I didn’t have enough to by him though.

        • comment avatar Sunderland A.F.C August 20, 2012

          Also i bought jon ruddy he is an awsome keeper

          • comment avatar Darren Smith August 20, 2012

            I think this the best ‘cheap’ ‘wonderkid’ XI available.

    • comment avatar Jon Gunnar Thordarson March 17, 2012

      I bought Iker Munian, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Eden Hazard, Jack Rodwell, Boyata and Welbeck They are fantastic in few years, one of the best in the world.

      • comment avatar Darren Smith March 17, 2012

        All great players, we have profiles all of them bar Welbeck.

        • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 19, 2012

          What about the spurs under 18 forward Souleymane Coulibaly. He is pretty Good.

          • comment avatar Darren Smith August 19, 2012

            I think those players may too young and part of their ruling is to not leave the club before a certain age.

            As for Coulibaly he’s a decent player, we have profiled him but he’s not consistent without a lot of development.

    • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 19, 2012

      I can’t find digne and a lot of them need work permits; it’s annoying.:(

      • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 19, 2012

        Should i try and loan them to other prem clubs like swansea or qpr like man u and chelsea do

        • comment avatar Darren Smith August 19, 2012

          Depends on whether you will play them, if they’ll get 15 games a season then no, but if they will hardly play then yes loan them out.

          • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 19, 2012

            What if i only play them as back up. shall i loan only a few of them

          • comment avatar Darren Smith August 19, 2012

            You’ll have to use your judgement there…all I csan say is that they won’t improve much without first team football.

    • comment avatar Jamie Creek August 19, 2012

      They need permits

      • comment avatar Darren Smith August 19, 2012

        When you say ‘a lot’ need work permits there are only three who may fail a work permit the rest should get one and you have to appreciate we are not just profiling for EPL managers. Digne will only be invisible if you don’t have a large database loaded so you need to use that.

  • comment avatar Grunf Lazial November 6, 2011

    i would rather add yaya than kadlec cose u get yaya for free-1st season loan from auxerre and at half of loan u sign aproach him to sign as free transfer

    • comment avatar Darren Smith November 6, 2011

      Yeah Sanogo would certainly be a better option money wise, but I’ve based this team around what would work and Kadlec is a much better player from the start of the game in my opinion. I wanted a striker that could get some goals from the off, although Sanogo would probably be a better partner for Fierro as he’s strong and could be a complete forward.

      • comment avatar Grunf Lazial November 6, 2011

        nice thinking

  • comment avatar Adam D November 6, 2011

    Now we just need to figure out someone to replace Willian, Sterling and Wilson and cut the £40m in half. Heck you don’t even need to find a replacement, most teams shoud be able to fill out 3 roles.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith November 6, 2011

      I agree mate, those three really bump the valuation up and while there were other options such as Xulu as centre back for £200K I wanted players that could form a decent team from the start of the game. I just couldn’t resist Willian as he’s such a talent and Spearing’s future stats speak for themselves. :)

    • comment avatar Tony November 29, 2011

      marc muniesa instead of wilson
      zezinho instead of willian
      torje instead of sterling
      would cut that price down abit

      • comment avatar Darren Smith November 29, 2011

        I guess Muniesa could work instead of Wilson but he’s very hit n miss, Zezinho is not very good this year (doesn’t grow to be world class anyway,) Torje costs a lot more than Sterling from the start of the game so that one wouldn’t work although he maybe a better player.

    • comment avatar Nemanja PFC February 8, 2012

      try markovic lazar (partizan ) ! Nastasic ( from fiorentina ), and great AML is somethning what i look for ! :D

      • comment avatar Darren Smith February 8, 2012

        Sorry, Lazar is not visible in my saves and Nastasic has not developed well enough to warrant a profile.

  • comment avatar luke SAFC November 6, 2011

    it looks to me as though you have just went on holliday untill 2019 if that isthe case then these players will have even better attributes if played properly and imagine if they had 7 star coaching then they would be world class

    • comment avatar Darren Smith November 7, 2011

      Thats right mate, the attributes shown are a worst case scenario and these players should develop far better with correct training and first team football.

  • comment avatar Pompeja November 13, 2011

    Ehmmmm.. Guilherme drops 6 positioning? 7 positioning is not good for GK. I guess this attribute is random on player. I was lucky to get him with 12 starting

    • comment avatar Darren Smith November 13, 2011

      Yeah I’ve noticed a few very random attribute leaps with different players, whether this is a glitch or SI’s way of trying to make the growth more spontaneous I don’t know…either way he’s a great keeper for the price.

  • comment avatar Ray Byrne November 22, 2011

    top team darren but i put Khouma Babacar from Fiorentina in my team and he got 3 in his first match he is only 18 he is a top player had him on fm 11 and he woz top scorer.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith November 22, 2011

      Yeah Babacar is good but unfortunately no where near as good as in FM11 which is a real shame. He’s versatile but never really develops his finishing, pace and acceleration to the same standard as last year.

  • comment avatar Nick Marsden December 4, 2011

    Darren, I can’t find matthias ostrzolek anywhere got any tips where to look?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 4, 2011

      I suggest looking Bochum and if he’s not there look through the clubs transfers out for where he was sold to.

  • comment avatar Shane December 7, 2011

    Amazing team, how do you make the players develop like get the ratings better ? do you just have to play them in your first team or can you loan them out and they still develop?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 7, 2011

      You can loan them out but remember the better the training facilities the better they’ll progress and also the level of football is important. A player going from EPL to L2 isn’t going to improve too much. I’d suggest giving them 10 matches in the first team but for the above players, they need more than that as they’re already at a good level.

      • comment avatar TimidMonkey December 11, 2011

        Hey I had a question about this.

        I recently bought up a whole lot of young talent, problem is theres no way I can give them all game time while at the same time competiting at a high enough level.

        I was wondering, am I better off loaning those players that aren’t getting games to affiliates like Club Brugge and QPR or keeping that at my club where the training facilities are a lot more impressive?

        Which is more likely to help them improve?

        Thanks as always!

  • comment avatar Johnay December 17, 2011

    Anyone tried Alvaro from Betis B
    3 and a half star potential from a Barcelona scout

  • comment avatar Johnay December 17, 2011

    Álvaro Vadillo that is

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 17, 2011

      I haven’t managed him but Vadillo looks like a talented player, I am just waiting to see what he’s like at the age of 26ish.

  • comment avatar Ben December 22, 2011

    Hey, just got offered the Chelsea job and plan to play with 3 strikers, who would you have as a tall, strong target man? And how good does Lukaku get? Thanks

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 22, 2011

      Lukaku is the guy I’d be tempted to develop into that role if I’m honest. He can develop very well but needs to get first team football.

  • comment avatar Tom December 23, 2011

    I’ve watched a kid called Joel Valencia a few times, Zaragoza he plays for I believe. Any chance of a profile in 2016 onwards? Thanks

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 24, 2011

      He turns out very average to be honest and won’t get a profile.

      • comment avatar Tom December 24, 2011

        No worries, thanks anyway.

  • comment avatar adam catlin December 25, 2011

    Have you tried leandro damiao striker first season in england hit 55 in all competitions

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  • comment avatar sel December 29, 2011

    kovacic from dinamo zagreb

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 29, 2011

      If you check the wonderkids list he is ion there with a full profile.

  • comment avatar Matt Skeer December 30, 2011

    Could you please post a team which you believe to be the absolute best players in a formation which suits them.

    Or is that a little too much :)

    • comment avatar Darren Smith December 30, 2011

      I will see what I can do but to be honest that sort of post is not what this site is about…I don’t think most people need to see the best players on the game, just the best bargains and wonderkids hence my wonderkids best XI post.

      • comment avatar Fritz Far-east December 31, 2011

        I recommend adel taarabt, greg cunningham, kyle walker, and my best bargain buy is erick torres….I play him as trequartista in attack and he is good in 2nd season with my tottenham…….

        • comment avatar Darren Smith December 31, 2011

          I certainly agree with the latter two, we’ve already profiled Torres and Walker will be in the pipeline.

  • comment avatar Simon January 8, 2012

    How do you find out what coaching level (stars) your team is?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 8, 2012

      Go into the squad then ‘training’ and ‘coaches’.

  • comment avatar Studgeon January 9, 2012

    Hi Darren, I’m in my first season with Liverpool, and you seem like an expert on Wonderkids… so I was wondering whether if I wait 2 or 3 seasons to sign these Wonderkids will they become worse if left to their ‘natural progression’? Should I buy as many as I can as quick as poss, or is it OK to wait a few years? (obviously if I wait they become more expensive, just want to know if they will still have the same ability and potential). I only ask because some players don’t show up yet(like Kara, I added Norwegian league so i hope he will show up later). Or do you think I should just buy as many as I can now and loan them out/play them as much as possible. Willing to sacrifice this season’s Top 4 position if it means getting the most of out of the wonderkids.

    Anyways just wanted to say keep up the good work, in FM2011 I was buying wonderkids and then wondering why they went from 4 star potential to like 2.5 stars, this site will really help me. Your speedy and concise replies are a breath of fresh air and I will definitely be consulting this site regularly during my journey to world dominance with LFC!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 9, 2012

      To be honest there is no easy answer, if you see a wonderkid that you know you are going to regret losing I’d sign him straight away and try to offer as much football as possible. But if you’re not sure than its worth waiting. All the profiles you see here are of players that the CPU has managed so you can see they develop well. It is true that players will develop faster under human management but that’s mainly due to first team football in my opinion. You’d lose nothing in development by waiting the first few seasons before making a bid….but the players probably won’t be available by then as they’ll have joined top clubs already. Hope we can continue to help. Cheers.

  • comment avatar Studgeon January 9, 2012

    OK thanks for the swift reply!

    Sorry, I have one more question, I’ve restarted my season and I’m trying to do it ‘properly’ this time. I bought Kara and Fierro but their work permits were turned down! Also bought Bertolacci and Ostrzolek but for some reason they won’t be joining my club until NEXT year (July 2012), even though my I’m in July 2011 and the transfer window is open. Do you know if I have just got unlucky? Is it random, or is this normal and I have to wait until they become available. Don’t mind waiting a year but having my work permits and the subsequent appeal turned down is annoying!

    Sorry for being a noob and pestering you, hopefully this is the last question and I’ll be able to figure the rest out for myself :) Thanks in advance

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 9, 2012

      I would say its weird for Fierro to have a work permit turned down, he usually signs a year later due to his age but I haven’t had a work permit turned down before. However, that is common with Kara. As for the others, I’m not sure why Ostrzolek is coming a year later but if I remember rightly Bertolacci is on loan and can’t move until he has completed it.

  • comment avatar Studgeon January 9, 2012

    Righto, thanks for the help man, much appreciated.

  • comment avatar daninho January 11, 2012


    I have one question, how can you get all these signings for that bargain since most likely all clubs wants loads of money for a future star. I find it hard to get them for bargain, currently restarted with Everton. Thanks!!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 11, 2012

      I basically offered bids for these players starting at just above or around their value and kept going up in small amounts until the club accepted so they should all be available for the prices shown as that is what I had accepted.

  • comment avatar Mow January 13, 2012

    Hello Darren, I would say: why don’t you have choosed Neymar(the player who teams as Real Madrid wants to contract)?

    I think (and more people) that Neymar is a superior wonderkid.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 13, 2012

      This list is named cheap wonderkids XI and Neymar isn’t anywhere near cheap.

  • comment avatar kris January 13, 2012

    hi darren, just wondered if you could help me out mate… im trying to find the best possible tactics to play with kadlec… im arsenal and dont have signed a few players that are from other sites lists of kids…. obviously arsenal have great young players anyway but i wanted to know what system best suits him also signed soukouhna and am using him mainly as a sub is this also a better idea to do with kadlec? cheers mate!

  • comment avatar Charlie January 14, 2012

    Hey Darren, Just want to know if you reccomend Spas Delev as a future prospect, i’ve been interested in him for about a season.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 14, 2012

      I wouldn’t really recommend him to be honest, I always maintain that wingers must have good technical attributes near the top level.

  • comment avatar Ronaldinho Did What? January 16, 2012

    What about Y.Sanogo from AJ Auxerre

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 16, 2012

      He isn’t as good as the two shown this year in my opinion.

  • comment avatar Bradders92 January 18, 2012

    Hey Darren,

    Im trying to buy luis guilherme for my tottenham side first season but his work permit keeps getting turned down? Do you know why? or am i just unlucky..



    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 18, 2012

      He hasn’t played enough games for his team I think, you won’t get a work permit at the start of the game in England for this kid.

  • comment avatar Jamie January 18, 2012

    May I suggest Marco Verratti, the kid is incredible and if you continue to play him either in midfield or behind the striker his stats increase on a monthly basis. What’s more he only costs 1million from the start. Also check sime vrsaljko (2-3million) and steven caulker. thoughts anyone???

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 18, 2012

      We have profiled Verratti and Vrsaljko already, you can see them by checking the ultimate list. As for Caulker I am waiting to find a better future profile first.

  • comment avatar Bradders92 January 18, 2012

    Hey Darren,

    Thanks for the fast reply, i will try to buy guilherme next season then and one more question? Ive bought Fierro but can he play as a lone striker or is it best to partner him up with someone?



    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 19, 2012

      I used Fierro to good effect as the lone striker but he can also play with a partner, not sure which is best to be honest but yes he can play on his own.

  • comment avatar Dean January 23, 2012

    Hi, looks like a great team!
    but from the first season if all these came into 1 team how good would they be (i.e. same standard as wigan? or a good championship shide like southampton?) – and also what reputation side would you have to be to get all of these players?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 23, 2012

      I don’t know about all of them, its a mixed bag really. I’d say that starting XI would be able to get a top eight finish with the right management in the EPL and the majority would move to any team within the top 15 of a England or Spain etc. The true quality comes in potential though.

    • comment avatar Jonny Gibbons January 25, 2012

      do u have to get a work permit for fierro or can u play him straight away

      • comment avatar Darren Smith January 25, 2012

        Never go off the scouts star rating, search through these lists and read the descriptions of the players. Problem is the scouts are almost always inaccurate when comparing a player to the likes of Vidic or Rooney.

        • comment avatar Darren Smith January 25, 2012

          As for Fierro, you cannot sign him straight away no, he joins a year later.

  • comment avatar Jonny Gibbons January 25, 2012

    Hi fellow fm2012 fans. can anyone find any 5 or 4.5 star potentails as manager of manchester united i cant find any…

    • comment avatar Francis April 11, 2012

      Carlos Fierro, Muniain

  • comment avatar adam January 25, 2012

    Money is not an issue now i know how to get £999,999,999. But your selection is fantastic!

    • comment avatar Jordan July 23, 2012

      How did you manage that?

      • comment avatar Darren Smith July 23, 2012

        He’ll be cheating, just making himself another manager or using the editor to do it…pointless way of playing the game IMO.

  • comment avatar Bebis January 27, 2012

    Great team Darren. I had already purchased Romario. I would suggest some players that I had also tried in FM 2011 and turned out to be superb until 2018(no holiday). Fabian Monzon, Ezequiel Schellotto, Lorenzo Crisetig, Kevin Mirallas and of course Ganso (although in FM 2012 he is expensive).

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 27, 2012

      Thanks mate, we have already profiled Crisetig and Ganso but will consider the rest. Cheers.

      • comment avatar jak April 11, 2012

        i know a good wonderkid lenny nangis you geet him for about 2.2 mill he is wanted by inter man city and barca

        • comment avatar Darren Smith April 11, 2012

          We’ve already profiled him in the wonderkid list.

  • comment avatar Ewan Wood February 3, 2012

    Hey man this looks like a good team. I’m in my third season with Lille and left back is a slight problem. I’ve had a look at Ostrzolek but the scouts give him 2 stars potential ability. Should I still get him for the future or leave it? He is still at Bochum at the moment and I could get him for cheap.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 4, 2012

      I too have recently found him to be of the standard seen above in some saves and then not so hot in others. I’d recommend looking at Digne maybe.

  • comment avatar Jai February 4, 2012

    hey.. i was wondering.. what should i put for team shouts, strategy and philosophy.. thankz

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 4, 2012

      This isn’t a tactic, just a suggestion of what wonderkids you can buy for your money really. I’d say they would suit some fluid and attacking play though.

  • comment avatar Jai February 4, 2012

    ohh… would you suggest me a good tatic than.. thankz

  • comment avatar Jai February 5, 2012

    oh ok
    thankz alot buddy

  • comment avatar Studgeon February 7, 2012

    Been having some strange results with my players. Signed Sanogo on a free transfer and he went nuts in his first season, scoring like 36 goals in all competitions. Then in his second season he went down from a Potential 4 star to a Potential 3.5 star even though I had been playing him nearly every game and following the “Individual Training Regime” suggestions. Same thing happened with Mbaye Niang, I’ve signed him this season (2015) and currently he’s scored 26 goals in 24 games in the Premiership, around 32 goals in all competitions and it’s only March. I’ve just noticed he’s also gone down from a potential 4 star to a 3.5 star. Same thing happened with Romario and Willian who are currently in my squad, played them both in 9 out of 10 games and they still didn’t reach their 4 star potential, all falling to 3.5 star at some point. Kara, Bertolacci and Wilson all flopped, I gave them loads of game time and they all failed to get passed 3 stars. I think maybe I listen to the Coach/Scout reports too much, it’s just irritating because I really can’t see how it is possible to make players reach their maximum potential. Jordan Ayew is the only player who has managed to maintain a 4 star rating for me so far. I even bought Hamsik and Neymar and they both fell to a 3.5 star within a few weeks of joining, despite getting 90% gametime.

    Sorry for the long rant, just thought I’d share my FM troubles, anyone else have these problems and know of something I’m missing? (I’ve upgraded my facilities at every opportunity also, and I also make sure that in the player reports it never says “John’s progress has stalled due to a lack of match experience”).

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 7, 2012

      All those stars are is the scout or coaches rating of the player, not how good they are…these are very misleading and I tell people not to rely on them until I turn blue in the face :) Sometimes if you bring in a new player that is very very good it drops the star rating of his team mates…just how it works, so don’t misunderstand it as meaning that player has gotten worse.

  • comment avatar Studgeon February 7, 2012

    Scratch what I said about Niang earlier, he’s actually currently on 43 goals in 41 appearances, and it’s March 19th (2015). He just scored 4 goals in one match, never seen that before. And apparently he’s still only 3.5 star, whatever he is I’m keeping him! Surprised he didn’t make the Cheap Wonderkid XI considering he’s a free transfer and has low wages, maybe I’m just getting lucky with him.

  • comment avatar Studgeon February 7, 2012

    Ok thanks for the info, didn’t know Srar Ratings worked like that. I’ll pay less attention to them in future.

  • comment avatar John February 11, 2012

    I think sanogo is the best striker o the game in Fm 11 ive signed him to arsenal and in the fourth season he and lukaku score more than 35 goals each

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 11, 2012

      Yeah he’s one of the best, better in FM11 but still quality in FM 12.

  • comment avatar Tom February 15, 2012

    Hi guys,

    I am Genk in season 2018, and have missed out on these players but can confirm they are mostly amazing in 2018! couple of players for you…

    Karim Ghazi – ST – Poacher paid 3.5mill from Sochaux in 2011, he now has 19 finishing, 18 pace and 18 acceleration, and 20 penalties. only 23 now.

    Rogier Van Der Sleen – WB (L) – Signed from Heracles in 2012 for 825k, now Dutch first choice WB and worth 7million

    Moussa Babacar – GK – signed 2011 from Lille for 1.5m, now 24 and 6million, France Squad. kicking, anticipation, command of area, communication and determination all 18+

    lots of Brazilians and Uruguayans available out of contract who are very good!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 15, 2012

      Searched all of those players but can’t find them in any of my saves I’m afraid.

  • comment avatar Evan February 24, 2012

    Andile Jali? Aiden Peake from Walsall also

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 24, 2012

      Already profiled Jali in a separate list and will check the Walsall player though I haven’t heard of him.

  • comment avatar jimmy February 27, 2012

    brssan is 21 i think and he is only 1 million he plays for BATE you have most likely heard of him , he is really good to start with

    • comment avatar Darren Smith February 27, 2012

      Yeah he is a good player, I am still waiting for a better profile before reporting on him though.

  • comment avatar jimmy February 27, 2012

    gaston ramirez signed him for my west brom team for 9 million first season and hes is really impressive

  • comment avatar jimmy March 3, 2012

    isaac vorsah turns out pretty good and starts pretty good

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 3, 2012

      I haven’t seen him develop well in my saves unfortunately.

  • comment avatar Studgeon March 4, 2012

    Had amazing results with Neymar as a Trequartista and Mbaye Niang as a Poacher on my Liverpool save. Guess these two strike types work well together, Trequartista set up all the goals and Poacher stuck them in the net(Neymar 35 assists a season, Niang 70 goals+ in all competitions)
    Decided to do the same with my Ipswich save, bought Fierro as Trequartista, I guess he’s kinda the poor man’s Neymar. My question is this: Niang or Sanogo as the poacher? I’ve got Sanogo on a free and he’s already bagged 35 goals in my first season in the Premier League, which makes me reluctant to replace him with Niang. I was wondering if anyone reading this could share their experience with Niang and Sanogo, and which is preferable in the Poacher role. (I could even drop Fierro and have Sanogo and Niang both Poaching, but surely a Poacher plays best alongside a Trequartista-type who sits deeper and sets up all the Poacher’s goals).
    I would’ve bought Kadlec but I can’t afford him at the start of the campaign and some other team always buys him fast.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 4, 2012

      I personally have used Niang with Malaga but not Sanogo and while Niang bagged me 30 + goals a season for a few years he seemed to stop developing early 20’s and then went off the boil whereas I have seen many gamers rave about Sanogo and his record always seems amazing. I personally think you should stick with Sanogo and have Fierro in the role that worked for Neymar as Fierro is a technical wizard and very impressive mentally.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 4, 2012

    what about firmino from hoffenhiem

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 4, 2012

      Not developed enough in my saves I’m afraid

  • comment avatar jimmy March 4, 2012

    if you give karim ait fana first team he can turn into a real talent (17 dribbling 15 crossing 15passing 18 acceleration)

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 4, 2012

      I’m keeping tabs on him and waiting for a good enough future profile.

  • comment avatar Matt P March 7, 2012

    Any tips to actually sign all of these players? Everytime I try 50% are cancelled due to work permits and then another 20-30% move to different unknown clubs!

    Tried as Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City so far and only been able to get around 3 on average!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 8, 2012

      Strike while the iron is hot (early in the season) and don’t be skint on wages, if they want £10,000 offer £13,000 as it’ll get the player to accept straight away. As for work permits there should be no more than 15% from the list failing them but the ones that do you have nothing to help I’m afraid.

  • comment avatar Shorty March 9, 2012

    Maybe it’s just me, but most of these players turn out to be way more expensive than listed. They even start out with higher values than listed. That’s the first day of a new career. Any idea what’s going on?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 9, 2012

      Check the patch the profiles have been based on and what patch you are using, likely that you are now on 12.2 and all these profiles were written using info from the previous patch which was before the player updates.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 11, 2012

    have you got a forum for players under 3,4 or 5 million ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ?

  • comment avatar jimmy March 12, 2012

    if kadrii develops right he can turn in to a real talent

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 13, 2012

      I’ve not seem him develop in any of my saves I’m afraid.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 12, 2012

    btw didnt actually sign this guy myself , he scored against me , his name is nacer barazite hes pretty good

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 13, 2012

      Afraid Barazite isn’t good enough for the list.

      • comment avatar jimmy March 13, 2012

        fair enough didnt sctually mean to put it on this 1 anyway ( meant to put it on “best cheap players list”)

  • comment avatar jimmy March 13, 2012

    kagawa is beast you can get him on a free transfer after 1 season got to say best free signing i have ever had

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 13, 2012

      Me too, I got him with Malaga and was a brilliant buy.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 13, 2012

    how about wallyson ? ? ?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 13, 2012

      Sorry I can’t find him in any of my future saves to check.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 14, 2012

    schelotto is great with first team (2 or 3 years) he can become amazing , in 1 of my game , few months ago he went to athletico Madrid for £32.5 million

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 14, 2012

      Yeah he did reasonably well in mine too but a shame the CPU doesn’t always manage him well to get top attributes.

  • comment avatar Owen Haggett March 15, 2012

    Devante Cole from Manchester City would be a good addition.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 15, 2012

      I have never seen him reach a decent level so have no future profile to use.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 16, 2012

    how about ryder matos

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 16, 2012

      Another one that has never hit a decent level in saves I’ve seen.

  • comment avatar jimmy March 19, 2012

    darren , just wondering if u could do some of your profiles with the shape aswell as the attributes

    • comment avatar Darren Smith March 20, 2012

      I’m afraid the profiles are done like this for size and image clarity so they won’t be changed.

  • comment avatar Jake Simpson March 21, 2012

    How can I get the best out of these players? Attributes wise

  • comment avatar Dylan Harvey March 23, 2012

    I got Romario and he is BEAST!!!

  • comment avatar Will April 1, 2012

    I’m Malaga in my first season. My long term ambition is to obviously destupt the Barca Madrid title race and become a world force. But for now i want to achieve 6th to get some europe action. Im in march and in 7th position so im reasonably happy. We are the second top scorers in the league as i have rondon, damiao, van nistelroy and sanogo all love scoring goals. But defensively we are a nightmare. Although i have just signed micah richards on loan with a view to signing him for 3mil (steal). so hopefully things will pick up at the back. Just wandered what formation worked for you at malaga?

  • comment avatar Zak Parker April 1, 2012

    Good dream team i have used rodrigo on the left (benfice) rather than willian and jairo on the right. Sanogo and fierro are good partners as strikers as you can get sanogo for free at the end of season 1 , Does any one know if adam morgan from liverpool turns out any good good ? I would recommend lucas moura ( i know this is a cheap dream team but if you do get around 25 million he is amazing)

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 1, 2012

      I’ve never seen Morgan turn into anything and looking at him he doesn’t look like much to be honest. As for Moura we have already profiled him but he’s not available under £50 million at the beginning of a new save and I’ve never seen him leave for less than £35 mill. Worth the punt if you have endless cash but not financially prudent to sign I think.

  • comment avatar Zak Parker April 1, 2012

    Sorry Rodrigo is from benfica spelling mistake and lucas moura can be bought in january 2012-13 for 26 million + add ons i used 24 months with 7.5 million added. I got a decent dream team for liverpool now as follows

    GK’s – Reina
    3 cb’s – wilson , munoz and coates
    2 cm’s – suso , guilavogui
    RW – Sterling / jairo
    AM – Lucas Moura / enzo zidane
    LW – Rodrigo
    ST – Fierro , suarez / sanogo

    Marc-Andre ter stegen
    Rodrigo Tello

  • comment avatar Chris April 6, 2012

    Scott Allan (Dundee United) develops quite well got him on a free after 1 season all attributes at least 13 and play him as an advanced playmaker attack (4-4-2 beside bwm Frimpong average Arseanal or dlp, Sergi Roberto Barcelona about 1mil after 1st season)and I’ve managed to get Mk dons into a mid table prem position with consecutive promotions

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 6, 2012

      While they are good for that sort of team they wouldn’t make it in a top side at any point, not to great effect at least. But certainly bargains at the right price if you’re lower league or pushing to attain a position in the EPL.

      • comment avatar Chris April 7, 2012

        Very true but sold on for tidy profit found 2 strikers that seem pretty good Kolbeinn Sigþórsson and Jelle Vossen (mental attributes ridiculous) but who would you recommend bearing in mind my tight budget, thanks in advance

        • comment avatar Darren Smith April 7, 2012

          Sigþórsson is the best of those two and only thing stopping him getting a profile is all my future saves haven’t seen him fully develop (due to bad management from CPU.) I’d go for him.

  • comment avatar Moses Siregar April 9, 2012

    Well, according to my strategy, young players aren’t much enough to be the best team and the unbeatable team because their experiences aren’t much more than the older players. Your strategy is a wise thinking and well build up strategy, but the perfection is not beautiful enough.

    But you know what, this DREAM TEAM is awesome!!! could you tell me how much you need to bargain for each players?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 9, 2012

      This team is meant to be an example of what you can get for your cash, and one for the future not the present as such. As for haggling on the players, you need to do a fair amount but their not that expensive so its common sense really. Just start at their value and work your way up.

      • comment avatar Moses Siregar April 9, 2012

        ok MM
        (^^) You are the king of FM bro!!!
        / \

  • comment avatar Moses Siregar April 9, 2012

    May I suggest:
    Marco Verratti change with Bertolacci
    Mario Gotze change for Willian
    Neymar change with Kadlec

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 9, 2012

      This is the best CHEAP wonderkids XI, not the best.

  • comment avatar Lucas Severo April 11, 2012

    See Lucas Severo!!!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 11, 2012

      Not developed in any of my games I’m afraid, not saying he isn’t capable but without a future profile of high quality I can’t report on him.

  • comment avatar Richard Dolan April 12, 2012

    What about Douglas Costa from Shakhtar – CAM?
    was better then eden hazzard on 2011

    Alex Smithies after his injury from huddersfield town – GK

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 12, 2012

      We have already profiled Costa and Smithies does look capable but has not improved enough in any of my saves to warrant a mention.

  • comment avatar Marshall April 15, 2012

    Hi, was just wondering as I bought the game about a week ago, my players ( man city) are all getting the ball into the box, but missing and at half time any team talk I choose either makes them all demotivated or fires up the defence only.Also, how do you do this training stuff? I’m a real noob haha

  • comment avatar Marshall April 15, 2012

    Also, do you have a profile on Lucas Piazon?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 15, 2012

      He is not good enough to be profiled I’m afraid.

  • comment avatar Martin April 16, 2012

    A quick question Darren, does Danny Wilson turn out any good in say 5 years on FM12

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 16, 2012

      He gets decent but I bought him during my second season with Malaga and regretted it because he just didn’t develop.

  • comment avatar Marshall April 16, 2012

    Ok, so I made a new career with olympiakos, but a lot of those players like Erick Torres don’t show up? Only comes up with a 33 year old CDM ?

    • comment avatar Marshall April 16, 2012

      WAIIT- meant fierro haha -.- but still, no good cheap youngsters come up

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 17, 2012

      I’d say you have a small database loaded when a medium one is required.

  • comment avatar Vasilis Ts. April 18, 2012

    Sime Vrsaljko is also a good signing and Yaya Sanogo a very talented striker.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 18, 2012

      Yeah they are both fantastic players and two of my favorites in this years version.

      • comment avatar Vasilis Ts. April 18, 2012

        Also Danny Da Costa has a good potential ability…
        P.S I’m at the end of first season with Bay Leverkusen can you suggest me a good and cheap central midfielder.Labyad and Coeff (from Lens)will join the cub at the end of the season .Are they enough ??

        • comment avatar Darren Smith April 19, 2012

          I’d suggest Kovacic or Badelj.

  • comment avatar gallagher April 22, 2012

    hi darren..i’m looking for cheap left defender,, any suggestion??

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 22, 2012

      Its tough to suggest as I can’t say who will join you but Rakitskyi maybe?

  • comment avatar Ricardo Williams April 23, 2012

    Gaston ramirez is a good buy, he’s really impressive and has good technical ability. Also try borini or erick torres, both great. Was also wondering about work permits for Fierro?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 23, 2012

      Borini hasn’t ever really improved in any of my saves but Torres is great. As for Fierro, I have never struggled to get a work permit but heard others say they have.

  • comment avatar Nico April 25, 2012

    Kevin de bruyne ?
    Dennis praet ?

  • comment avatar Nico April 25, 2012

    John guidetti ?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 25, 2012

      Will take a look at those players in the future as we have too many profiles to do at the moment.

  • comment avatar oceousman April 25, 2012

    janez Verbic is a definite purchase

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 25, 2012

      Sorry he is not visible in my future save.

  • comment avatar Studgeon April 26, 2012

    I’d recommend Gaston Ramirez as well if you can’t afford Willian. Bought for 2.5 million in my first season with Ipswich in the Championship, 7 years later he is still my best left winger, minimum 10 goals and 20 assists each season (yet to win the Premiership but finishing in the Top 4 for the past 4 years.)

    Darren what are your thoughts on Alex Chamberlain Vs. Raheem Sterling? Sterling wouldn’t join my Ipswich team so I bought Chamberlain for 10million, has been one of my top players for 5-6 years now.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 27, 2012

      We have profiled Ramirez and he is an excellent prospect, only problem is the club demand ridiculous amounts at the start of the game…but as mentioned that fee drops drastically further down the line, its just about checking his availability really…may also be effected if you have the Italian league loaded which I do.

      As for Sterling and Chamberlain, its a tough one…when development is left to the CPU Sterling always grows into an England International while Chamberlain is left to rot, but that is all before patch 12.2 where FM seem to have revamped Chamberlain and I think he’s be preferred for me.

  • comment avatar Phil April 27, 2012

    My tip for u is too try out Lucas Digne, i bought him on my QPR file and turned out to get PL’s best player and 2nd in the worlds best player in 4 years, he did cost me at about 3.5 M. He’s way worth a look.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith April 27, 2012

      I have wanted to profile him for ages now but still waiting for the right future screenshot…hoping to find one in my next save though.

  • comment avatar vinix May 2, 2012

    i have Marco Verratti, Vrsajlko, GK: Koval, but i think verrati is the best one, he is the next andrea pirlo

  • comment avatar Le Dzung May 10, 2012

    Hi Darren,
    Wish you health for all the great works you’ve done for us.

    I’m managing Sunderland on my 1st season. It’s a LAN game where my friend managing Westbrom. Not many strikers interested in joining my club, they also fail on wp, or be signed by the other clubs, or on loan and come in next season!

    I’m really in need of one consistent striker (fast or strong one), who can be a goal machine, instant impact, but also cheap (< 7mil I think). I'm using 4-2-2-2 mainly, and I have Bendtner, JiDongWon and C.Wickham. I see there are Moussa Sow, Quintero Darwin, Luuk de Jong, Paloschi. You also suggest E.Torres and Kadlec on this site, but are they too young to make a consistent performance on our 1st season?

    I really appreciate if you can suggest me some ideas, which one i can buy? Thank you a lot!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith May 10, 2012

      I’d suggest that Torres and Paloschi may make an instant impact but that more down to your management than anything else…Torres scored 20 goals for me with Newcastle in my first season.

      • comment avatar Dzunglv May 11, 2012

        Thank you! I like Torres but he failed the work permit. As kolbein sigpodson does not want to come so i start my season with Quintero Darwin and Luuk de Jong leading our front. Hope the two guys will make it.

  • comment avatar Alex May 17, 2012

    Swap Giuseppe Prestia for Wilson and it can save you 8 million and Prestia is amazing in the future

    • comment avatar Darren Smith May 17, 2012

      Yeah he probably would be the better choice but I wanted someone more potent at the back from day one and this was done fairly early in the FM process so a few players could be improved.

  • comment avatar Tom May 18, 2012

    im brighton hove Albion and dropping in the relegation fast I need a couple of brilliant players any1 can help be most obliged

    • comment avatar Darren Smith May 18, 2012

      We haven’t done lower leagues yet but will be soon. To be honest if you’ve already started the season all the players we know won’t be available to be honest, but you can check when the Championship list comes out.

  • comment avatar Sean May 19, 2012

    Robbie Cotton perhaps? Got him on a free end of 1st season.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith May 19, 2012

      He’s not improved enough in my saves unfortunately.

  • comment avatar teoman May 20, 2012

    muhammed demirci, any1 used this guy yet ? he becomes great, from besiktas, 16 years of age.

  • comment avatar rio May 28, 2012

    What about jean-marie dongou of barcelona? He is only 17 and although he is a different type of player to Messi it is said he is better than messi at this age

    • comment avatar Darren Smith May 28, 2012

      He’s not developed enough in my future saves to do a profile. But having said that he looks like he could be very good with human management.

  • comment avatar erick torres May 31, 2012

    Have you done Erick Torres thinking of partnering him with Carlos Fierro

    • comment avatar Darren Smith May 31, 2012

      We certainly have, just click the FM 2012 wonderkids tab at the very top of the site, and then find him in the list.

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  • comment avatar dan June 2, 2012

    could you possibly tell me how Kevin Mirallas or Juan Mata get on in the future? thanks.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 2, 2012

      Mata is one of the best known wingers for the EPL, he gets very good while Mirallas has never really developed in my saves due to poor CPU management.

  • comment avatar lukeyt June 4, 2012

    Hey just stumbled across this site amazing!loving the attention to detail! am contemplating spending 10.5m on Rodrigo from SLB his pace and accleration both 19!anygood? also i had mohammed bangura (from celtic) 3.5m banged 44 goals first season (west ham) then 29 in prem 2nd season loved him!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 4, 2012

      Glad you like the site mate, Rodrigo is very good, we are just about to profile him actually so stay tuned to the homepage for his post.

  • comment avatar lukeyt June 4, 2012

    you seem like a wiseman perhaps you could help me with my guilt? i play this game with my brother (network game) and we are both very competitve why do i feel like im cheating coming on here?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 5, 2012

      Probably because you are getting easy answers, its not cheating if you don’t change the game itself though, this is just seeking advice and other peoples opinions…cheating is changing the game using FMRTE the editor etc or quitting the game and starting again when things don’t go right.

  • comment avatar lukeyt June 5, 2012

    thanks not feeling so guilty now have you ever done a profile on bellusci from sporting 22 yr old italian centre back?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 5, 2012

      We haven’t as he isn’t good enough in the future saves I’m afraid.

      • comment avatar matty allen June 8, 2012

        sime vrsaljko is quailty get him for 1m at the start of the game and lazar markovic 1.3m at the start of game

        • comment avatar Darren Smith June 8, 2012

          Yeah he is, we have profiled Vrsaljko but Markovic hasn’t improved enough in my future saves to profile.

  • comment avatar Scott Daniell June 14, 2012

    As a avid Liverpool FC fan this dream team is perfect. 2 of the biggest expenses in this team are playing for Liverpool. I only need to spend £22.4m. Bargain. Worth offloading some dead wood to get the finances to set up this mega team in season 1. Thanks

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 14, 2012

      No problem, also check the ‘ultimate list’ on this site and others, they’ll offer a tonne more options.

  • comment avatar Dusan Djordjevic June 15, 2012

    Hi Darren, long time no chat :) Do you know where I can find some guys who are playing via hamachi? Regards from Serbia! :)

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 15, 2012

      I don’t I’m afraid Dusan. Maybe start a thread in the forum to see if anyone is interested.

  • comment avatar Dusan Djordjevic June 15, 2012

    Ok I’ll do it ! :)

  • comment avatar budi June 17, 2012

    how about the best winger…????

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 17, 2012

      Sorry I don’t follow, are you asking me who my favorite winger is? If so I’d say someone like Hazard.

  • comment avatar Darren June 24, 2012

    what is a tequarista?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith June 24, 2012

      Rather then me re-write it out, just go to your tactics screen then click player instructions, set the forwards role to the role you want to know more about and the description will be to the left of the screen.

  • comment avatar Callum July 1, 2012

    In 2014/2015 season sign Fedrico Sorrentino fron AS Roma he is about £25m but is a beast he’s better than messi and ronaldo!!!!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith July 1, 2012

      He is not a real player…he’s a regen, a player that is generated in your game only and won’t appear in any other.

  • comment avatar Bombur July 1, 2012

    Hi Darren, this probably isn’t really a question about wonderkids but I’m wondering if you can help me.

    I’m currently in 2023 with Ipswich, have been arguably the best team in the world since about 2016-17 when I started regularly winning the Premiership/Champions League and other smaller cups, but my transfer budget is still weak. Usual transfer budget is around £50m. On average I will spend about £20m each year. Last season I won the Treble and didn’t spend a single penny on transfers, yet I moved DOWN in the World’s Richest Club rankings from 5th to 6th.

    So it looks like the problem is I have a stingy owner who will not invest in the club, I am the most reputable club in the world and yet I have a transfer budget of just 50m. Is there anything I can do to get a new owner? Realistically I should’ve been taken over by a rich investor to take the club to the next level, instead I still have the same owner who was in charge when Ipswich were in the Championship in 2011 and it is impossible to get any richer and increase my transfer budget.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith July 1, 2012

      Your wage budget will be too big for the size of stadium and sponsorship etc. You actually need to be making a profit in the transfer market realistically to move up in the the richest club list. But there is nothing you can do about the owner, he is there until the game decides he will be replaced.

  • comment avatar Darren July 3, 2012

    hello again just wondering what your thoughts were on marvin martinn and yaya banana?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith July 3, 2012

      Marvin Martin is very good but not seen much good of Banana to be honest.

  • comment avatar barry July 5, 2012

    im in my 2ND season and trying to find a young quality left midfielder for cheap and turns out world class any ideas if possible thanks!

    • comment avatar Karl Deighton July 5, 2012

      Dont know any left midfielders, but maybe as a left winger Marko Marin of Diego Perotti

  • comment avatar Anders98 July 5, 2012


    • comment avatar Karl Deighton July 5, 2012

      Yeah, he should be in the wonderkid XI but it was made before I think he was profiled. This is Darren’s Wonderkid XI, mine would be different

  • comment avatar barry July 6, 2012

    thanks anders98 and karl bought valencia! now i need a young quality cheap left back any ideas people?

    • comment avatar Karl Deighton July 6, 2012

      Good cheap left backs are hard to come by on this years edition, Ostrzolek, Digne and Henrique Miranda can become decent. But I would buy Vrsaljko or Romario and train them to LB, I’ve seen teams do it in my saves

  • comment avatar Darren July 7, 2012

    what do you think of oliver norwood and ricardo kishna?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith July 7, 2012

      Not much too be honest, neither has ever made it to a decent level in my saves.

  • comment avatar Darren July 11, 2012

    ulises davila looks like he could be a great player he plays for vitesse

    • comment avatar Darren July 11, 2012

      and i could really do with a sweeper they dont have to be wonderkids i just cant find any

      • comment avatar Darren Smith July 11, 2012

        While Davila does look talented and I’m sure he’d be a good player if given game time and the right training, in my future save he’s not quite made it. Probably down to CPU but I can’t profile without a good future screenshot.

  • comment avatar Darren July 15, 2012

    joe mckee looks like a good player for dirt cheap? 18 years old 20 for frees and penalties 15 for finishing etc

    • comment avatar Darren Smith July 15, 2012

      While he does look talented he never actually develops his in play skills to an acceptable level…he’s just a set piece specialist from what I’ve seen.

      • comment avatar Lotanna July 31, 2012

        agree with you there, bought him for my newcastle and he was sooo mediocre..shipped him off straight away

  • comment avatar Bombur July 19, 2012

    Hey Darren,

    Do you know what the deal is with attribute changes? I’m in 2023, my computer-generated striker is 24 years old and has so far scored 65 goals in 50 appearances this season, in his last 5 games he’s scored two, then one, then three, then three, then four! Yet when I go to ‘Show Recent Attribute Changes’ nearly all his stats are declining. His ‘Finishing’ has decreased from 20 to 19. What’s the deal? He’s young and he is in the form of his life, surely his attributes should be improving or at least staying the same. I just don’t understand why his Stats are getting worse. Any ideas?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith July 20, 2012

      I don’t know your game so couldn’t say…it could be your schedules, coaches, the players attitude or even complacency in training. I couldn’t say.

  • comment avatar Roki August 4, 2012

    well..I have some greek talents very cheap!!
    Spyros fourlanos MC panathinaikos 18years old
    Stefanos kapinos GK panathinaikos 17Years Old
    Andreas Tatos MC olympiakos
    Gianniotas AMR aris 18years old
    Giorgos Katsikas DC Paok 19years old

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 4, 2012

      From what I can see none of them are visible in what we class as a ‘normal’ save…very few people load the Greek leagues so we won’t profile anyone that is not visible without the Greece loaded.

  • comment avatar Darren August 13, 2012

    there is a real shortage of left backs in football manager. have you seen nicolai boilesen from ajax he looks decent

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 13, 2012

      There certainly is, but Boilesen has never hit an acceptable level in any of my saves…

  • comment avatar Jack August 13, 2012

    What tactic are you using these players in? I’ll certainly try buying all of these for my team :)

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 13, 2012

      I’m not using these players, this is just a formation to visually show the players in their positions.

  • comment avatar Jack August 14, 2012

    Sorry I should have been more clear, what i meant was would these players suit johnnys bulldozer tactic or the 4-2-4 you used at Malaga, if so what alterations did you make to the bulldozer? Thanks for your help :)

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 14, 2012

      What I am saying is this is a post to show the best players I have never tested them together nor say they work as a team in any particular tactic so I wouldn’t know how they’d do as I haven’t tried.

  • comment avatar Busby August 14, 2012

    This list is amazing. I started a save with Man United and signed all of these players. Its amazing. I don’t have to sign another player for 10 years (if i don’t want to), I can just let the squad age and start bedding these champions in one at a time.

    Darren, could you add seven more subs, or even a second eleven?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 14, 2012

      Afraid not mate, but you can check the ‘cheap players’ list for more options.

  • comment avatar Kyrran August 16, 2012

    What about Darwin Quintero? He’s 23 but in 2017 he’s the games best striker.
    And can I ask who would you choose to take your freekicks?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 16, 2012

      We’ve already profiled Quintero but he never develops better than the players in this team. As for freekicks I’d probably go for Verratti.

  • comment avatar Daniel Tumulty August 16, 2012

    if i signed all of them in the first season for chelsea would they be ready to play straight away

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 16, 2012

      No they wouldn’t, some maybe but you’d need at least two seasons development.

  • comment avatar Darren August 17, 2012

    stupidest question ever but i’ve downloaded the current kits from fm base but how do i install them?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 17, 2012

      Sorry those are FM-Bases downloads so you would need to ask them, I’m not sure.

      • comment avatar Darren August 17, 2012

        ok so thanks anyways

  • comment avatar Darren August 28, 2012

    what do you think of manuel lanzini from river plates u20 squad and juan manuel iturbe of porto i only ask because theyre epic on fifa

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 28, 2012

      Both aren’t too good on FM.

  • comment avatar Yoga August 31, 2012

    hey darren, i bought joel valencia but it seems he’s not developed well enough. is it my training or because i don’t give him enough playing time?

    • comment avatar Darren Smith August 31, 2012

      I don’t know how many games he has played or your training so couldn’t comment but chances are its a bit of both.

  • comment avatar Kalarara September 5, 2012

    Yarmolenko cheap player? 8.7m!? Very cheap…
    Demirci is ideal player for this “cheap wonderkids best 11”, only 1,5m, and, Crisetig, 1,5m, is more better than Verratti, 2,5m. Ostrzolek, 750k > Digne, 1,3m.
    And, total price of my “best cheap wonderkids IX” : 16.05m

    • comment avatar Darren Smith September 6, 2012

      don’t appreciate sarcasm. If you’d bothered to as if I’d considered those players firs then I could have offered very good reasons as for why they shouldn’t be in the XI, but I don’t answer to sarcasm.

  • comment avatar Herbie76 September 8, 2012

    Hi Darren,

    I have been playing FM for many years and I am very impressed with your knowledge of the scouting,tactics etc..I have a quick question for you, normally I play 2 strikers(one poacher & a complete forward) or (one tran & a poacher)who would you say is the best for any of these roles(price not a issue)can I in future just send these sort of questions to your e-mail…Thanks in advance;-))

    • comment avatar Darren Smith September 8, 2012

      Well it depends what you’re looking for really, if your looking for youth that will develop really well then Fierro and Ongenda would do well as poachers, Torres as Tran and probably Sanogo as complete forward. But if you’re after players that are already well developed then the likes of Neymar would be first choice at poacher and maybe Damiao or Doumbia at complete forward.

      To be honest questions will get answered faster on the site as opposed to email and I prefer them on here so others can benefit too.

  • comment avatar remy September 8, 2012

    Facundo Ferreyra is beast wonderkid you can get so cheap seriously, You can find him at banfield for less than 2mil i think. Should consider him. He was a legend in my liverpool save, with over 250 goals in 270 appearance no joke Ballon d’or 3 times. Fantastic grab. Although you may find it hard to get a work permit in early stages as he is from south america.

    • comment avatar Darren Smith September 8, 2012

      He looks good but has never come close to the sort of form you are mentioning in my save so he can’t be profiled unless you can provide screenshots of his overview profile and career history…our policy is not to profile any player without good future screenshots which we don’t have.

  • comment avatar Ninoslav Damnjanovic September 16, 2012

    Hey mate, check Eric Tores!

    • comment avatar Darren Smith September 16, 2012

      Already have, he was profiled ages ago.

  • comment avatar Jaims October 22, 2012

    Cheap but very good!
    Jores Okore (DC)
    Kyle Bartley (DC)
    Jordan Spence (DR)
    Adrian Aldrete (DL)
    Leandro Bacuna (AML)

  • comment avatar kia January 13, 2013

    why dont you try lazar markovic from fk partizan

    • comment avatar Darren Smith January 13, 2013

      This post is not been updated as its from the old game.

  • comment avatar Yady October 23, 2013

    Gk: Perrin/Genoa,DL:Berardi/Padova,DR:Donati/Pescara,DCL:Capuano/Pescara,DC:De Laet/Free…DMC:Kara,MC:Jali,MC:Crisetig/Inter Milan,AMC:Verratti….DLF:Rochina,ST:Muriel

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