FM 2012 player profile – Joel Valencia

FM 2012 Central Midfielders

written by Darren Smith



Joel Valencia

Age: 16

Position: AMR/MRC/AMC

Club: Zaragoza

Nationality: Ecuadorian

Value: £800K

Price tag: £875K (in patch 12.2)

Joel Valencia’s profile in 2011 (after starting new game, patch 12.2)

Joel Valencia’s scouting report from Ryan on Man Utd

Joel Valencia’s profile aged 21 in the year 2016

Joel Valencia’s career history until 2016

This FM 2012 player profile of Joel Valencia should leave you drooling, in fact no, you shouldn’t have time to drool as you frantically rush to start up the game and buy this new found talent! While Valencia doesn’t stand out as a youngster his potential is here for all to see in the future profile above taken of the wonderkid aged 21 in 2016. That shows what Valencia can grow to if managed well, the screenshot is from Pedro Silva’s game and you must agree he has done an excellent job raising Valencia who looks incredible and still has many more years of developing to go. Seeing attributes in acceleration, agility, pace, crossing, dribbling, technique, determination and first touch make this kid one of the best wonderkids I have ever seen from an FM series. And you can have it all for just £875K, if I could I’d rate him 11/10!! Please do note though that Valencia has flexible potential meaning he may not have the ability to reach this level in your game, but he’ll still develop into a great player even if short of what you see above.

Best buy rating: 11/10 (that’s right, he defies mathematics!)

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pereira
February 1, 2012 12:22 pm

just amazing is development im wating for him on the transfer list of jannuary like andersen. i really hope to make this kid this great.
which kind of train should i give to him ?

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p0w!
February 1, 2012 3:28 pm

is there any chance we can get some tips on how Pedro Silva got players like gaitan sanogo and now joel valencia to such a high level, training schedules and indivdual focuses and stuff. This would be very helpful thanks!

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Arsenal Goon
February 1, 2012 3:39 pm

Hi, love your site, was wondering why you dont do many domestic players. Kinda wana see Alex Chamberlain, Miyachi, Wilshere, Ramsey, Phil Jones and Ravel Morrison.

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Nick Jones
February 1, 2012 3:53 pm

To be fair this guys stats aren’t even that good, he isn’t an all round player, just quite like Aaron Lennon with pace and dribbling. His assist ratio is amazing though even from the start!

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Matt Skeer
February 1, 2012 4:08 pm

What training schedule does Pedro Silva use as he did the profile of Sanogo I think and he turned out amazing so what does he use ?

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Arsenal Goon
February 1, 2012 4:13 pm

have to disagree Nick. He has the stats needed for his position. That why his assists are so high. The useful stats for a winger are maxed out and the stats he doesnt need so much arent. Crossing, dribbling and speed mixed with technique. You cant go wrong

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Arsenal Goon
February 1, 2012 4:15 pm

His determination is amazingly low though. I dont usually buy players if they have determination below 14-15 What are your thoughts on this Darren?

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lee
February 1, 2012 4:20 pm

i assume pedro silva was lucky to get that “version” of joel valencia. in my save game (i cheat a bit by using genie), joel has only 4 professionalism, 6 ambition, 9 determination. theres no way my joel will come as good as pedro silva’s one

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Arsenal Goon
February 1, 2012 4:34 pm

Yeah Valencia has T determination on my save and he is also fairly proffesional

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Arsenal Goon
February 1, 2012 4:36 pm

7*

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pereira
February 1, 2012 5:25 pm

but the kid as evolved very well. don take the credit from someone that can train and have some better trainging schedules than yours.. joel valencia is a machine and is online 21 years i really hope that pedro silva gives s a print from joel with some age. this kid is just amazing could be the palyer that make a diffrence bettew a lostor winned game.

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Pedro Silva
February 1, 2012 7:43 pm

Hi, like some of you said I was lucky, because my Joel Valencia already had some good attributes in the work rate, determination, and those hidden ones (for those I used genie scout, I guess it’s the only way you can see them, like profissionalism, etc. (My brother has him to, and he doesn’t have the same attributes, and hasn’t developed the same) I bought him right from the start, first I trained him on his speed, because it wasn’t very high at first, and I like my wingers to have alot of speed. When he had speed and agility… Read more »

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Pedro Silva
February 1, 2012 7:53 pm

One thing I forgot, is that I can’t really get my players to develop in the mental attributes, which it’s quite a shame, It’s definetely his weak point.

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pereira
February 1, 2012 8:50 pm

pedro i have the schedule where should io put it ?

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N.Loureiro
February 2, 2012 3:16 am

Wow, This guy…my scouts don’t think much of him but they recomended his team-mate Kevin. His full name is Kevin Lacruz, I think. Can you check him out and see how he develops?

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Super Danny Welbeck
February 2, 2012 6:43 am

See, this is what I love most about Football Manager. These players. There are a lot more like this on the game and when you find one, it’s fantastic. I’d advise you to look at Man United’s Adnan Januzaj for a similar 11/10 rating.

Out of curiosity, is Joel Valencia related to Antonio Valencia. Both Ecuadorian, right wingers, any relation at all?

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steve
February 2, 2012 2:42 pm

Is there any news on a defender named Rhodolfo? Is this just a regen in my game or is he for real?

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N.Loureiro
February 2, 2012 7:20 pm

Rhodolfo is a real player and currently plies his trade at São Paulo in Brazil. He was one of Juventus’s target during the winter transfer window but Juve decided and rightly so to bring in a renewed Martin Caceres.

Here is his profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luiz_Rhodolfo_Dini_Gaioto

And here’s him again in a Goal.Com article: http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/11/14/2754724/from-casemiro-to-rhodolfo-through-damiao-gabriel-silva

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pereira
February 3, 2012 10:23 am

darren could you sdk pedro silva ao does rodrigo from slb turn on since is training slb. im intrested in sining him

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Pedro Silva
February 3, 2012 4:07 pm

In my save he wasn’t any good, Sold him after loaning him in the first season. He had a PA of 130, or 140.

I’ve seen some prints of him in which he was amazing. I guess it dependes on the save.

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pereira
February 3, 2012 10:23 am

*ask

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Vin
February 3, 2012 3:29 pm

I think he really need to be retrain to the left where he can play as inside fwd, because he is right footed only he can’t play as right inside forward right? Yes he can play as ‘wingers’ on the right but classic winger don’t work at FM.

Also his finishing and composure is quite low, think he’s gonna waste lots of chances when he skinned 4-5 players but missed the one on one with the keeper

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Pedro Silva
February 3, 2012 4:05 pm

In my tactics I have the wingers switching sides during the match. I Havn’t trained him in that position yet, because it occupies a big amount of training and I wanted to develop him first.

He actually scores some goals, despite his finishing being very low.

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Pedro Silva
February 3, 2012 4:19 pm

Something I forgot to mention last time, is that, I like to train my players first in the physical attributes (if they need to). I think it’s easier for them to develop those attributes at a young age. Then I prefer to train the technicals. The mental part I usually leave for last (unless the player has an great fault at composure for exemple).

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jon
February 4, 2012 2:24 pm

Pedro Silva has obviously used fmrte with joel valencia as his PA only ever reaches 170 max.

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Pedro Silva
February 4, 2012 4:03 pm

http://footballmanager.wikia.com/wiki/Potential_Ability As you can see there, for the youngsters, the PA is variable. -8 = 130-160 -9 = 150-180 -10 = 170-200 For a player with -9 PA, he will get a PA betwen 150, and 180. Actually, in my save Joel doesn’t have 180 of PA, he has 175 (not much difference), I’ve confused him with Abdallah Yaisien which is my other winger, and has 180 of PA (and also Luis Guilherme). But to show that Valencia could have 180 of PA, here you go. Open the Editor of FM2012. Load the DB. Filter by player with this:… Read more »

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Nick Jones
February 9, 2012 3:28 pm

Ah that’s what the -9, -10’s are for. I knew it was random rating but wasn’t sure exactly how. So basically anyone on -9 can be world class 170+PA but could also be average premiership players <160PA and everyone on a -10 rating like Sanogo in FM11 is guaranteed world class.

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N. Loureiro
February 4, 2012 4:16 pm

So, first question. What are the side-effects of using FMRTE, Darren?

@Jon

I don’t mean to pry but Darren is correct. Joel Valencia is the type of player that most likely starts with a -n attribute for PA. Meaning that it will never be the same in three different saves. He can have 170, he can have 160 or 167…So no, your argument has little validity.

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N. Loureiro
February 4, 2012 4:17 pm

The person above is me. I just mispelled my e-mail.

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N. Loureiro
February 4, 2012 5:06 pm

“I personally hate the thing as it leads to people like myself who play the game properly and just know how to win being accused of using it.”

I feel your pain, mate. I too have been accused of cheating. Especially with my Arsenal and FC Bayern saves from FM11. Especially with latter because I went undefeated in all competitions I was in. It’s not hard to pull that when you manage Bayern Munich.

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N. Loureiro
February 4, 2012 6:44 pm

We never stop learning during the course of our lives.

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DannyBhoy
February 5, 2012 3:51 pm

Does anyone know how pedro’s game layout is like that?

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Pedro Silva
February 5, 2012 6:51 pm

I use a new skin (Benfica skin, created my a Benfica fan), that I’ve downloaded.

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Jack
February 5, 2012 8:23 pm

Pedro Silva, is there anyway we could download your benfica game? Thanks!

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Martin K
February 8, 2012 8:05 pm

what is a genie scout? Something that get scouting all the best players? Much of the romance is also to “raise” players that dont become mega stars but that you still get attach to.

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Ewan Wood
February 9, 2012 8:54 pm

I have managed to pick up Valencia and Giuseppe Prestia from Palermo at the start of my third season. They have been completely neglected for the previous two seasons but I’m managing to give them a few games. If I give them around 15 games this season will they be fine?

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David Warner
February 14, 2012 6:41 am

Hahaha, I bought him for cheap in the first season on my Liverpool save as a “yeah, maybe he’ll be okay for backup in a couple of years” player. Never realised how much potential he had, really. Since seeing this profile, I have started playing him a bit more often. He’s had 4 starts now, and 1 sub appearance … and he’s gotten 3 Man-of-the-Matches with an average rating of 7.62. Very impressive, will work hard to develop him! :D Oddly enough though, he never really ‘lit up’ my Under 18’s or Reserve squads with performances, which is probably why… Read more »

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Bryan Loynes
February 15, 2012 3:54 pm

I have to say he’s been certainly a flop in my game. I’m in 2019 and he is playing for Bristol City (League 1), and doesn’t even make their first team.

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Ewan Wood
February 16, 2012 9:46 pm

Darren could you have a look a Luis Alberto who plays for Sevilla Atletico (the Sevilla B team). This a gyazo of his current stats if gyazo works? http://gyazo.com/f3033f9283cb53fd4f54db72d8cfcf1c

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Ewan Wood
February 16, 2012 10:00 pm

Alright thanks anyway. I think he just gets left to rot in that B team

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Heresy
February 27, 2012 12:51 pm

In my Fullham game he hasn’t developped well enough. I gave the same amount if not more first-team game time than Pedro had. He’s decent but not mindblowingly good. One suggestion, Darren. Perhaps you could give 2 screenshots – one where a player is developped by human managment, and another one with CPU managment. Because when you see all those amazing stats, you can’t help but to buy the kid, but it doesn’t mean he will turn out amazingly for everyone. Not everyone has the touch and not all attributes are the same in every game. Perhaps with 2 screenshots,… Read more »

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Jevdot
March 2, 2012 4:46 pm

Is there a Profile for ravel morrison or paul pogba? if not will there be one?

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casey Mchugh
March 8, 2012 3:51 pm

check out Pavel Nyakhaychyk

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Malhar Bhadbhade
March 9, 2012 1:20 am

just wanted to know if its possible that joel wont turn out at all like pedro’s did? im about to start a save with porto and im thinking about buying him…should i put him in the reserves/ U18s squad? or should i play him in cup matches straight away? coz joel valencia on pedro’s save turned out to be EPIC. but im concerned that he might not be anywhere close to that on my save..

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Blororo
March 10, 2012 9:23 am

what attribute to be trained?

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Gunnersaurus
March 11, 2012 5:45 pm

Could you do a future profile of Miyaichi(Arsenal) and Kelvin(Porto)?

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darsnider
March 28, 2012 6:29 pm

he is a hard one to develop but im working on it got most his stats to 15 with 2 years to go he is 19 now great guy he and vadillo are my subs for hazard and elia they do well but still get bullied for now cant wait to get him to 17 acceleration and pace to work on his technical skills

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Adam
April 7, 2012 1:35 pm

could u check Lazar Markovic from Partizan he is realy good im my save

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darsnider
April 11, 2012 7:38 pm

you have to profile vadilo he is great i have him at 21 and he is really becoming their he has much better overall stats than Valencia though i still need to do some work he is 20 now

Guest
April 17, 2012 4:34 pm

If the guy didn’t cheat as you say why is it then that the player starts with a determination of 3 (first screen) and ends up with a determination of 18….Mmmm Strange…. Using the editor to manipulate the mental stats eej…Everybody knows that ambition, determination and professialism defines if the player will reach its maximum potential….Nice try though

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Jack
May 1, 2012 7:00 pm

Is he good enough to fit into the Barcelona team, as a backup and potential replacement for Alexis Sanchez?

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Jack
May 3, 2012 5:08 pm

I didn’t buy this guy in the first, second, or third transfer windows, and in my game it is November of 2012. He plays for Zaragoza, who were regulated, and he has gotten SO MUCH BETTER! His dribbling is 15, first touch and technique 16, and his mentals/phsicals have improved too. I just arranged to sign him for 1.8M in January. The only problem is that he’s become a natural AMC, and my formation doesnt use one. I’m sure I can retrain him back to being a winger though.

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danny
May 26, 2012 3:09 pm

could you look at jake sinclair plays for southampton?

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